The Battle of Baghdad

[Dauphin]

I hope the US wins with the least amount of bloodshed on both sides.

Other than that I hope the war drags on, and brings other despondencies in the US such that Bush is out of office at the next election.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by TheStinger
The war will be over within 7 days, then all the anti war brigade will have to explain why they were wrong about evrything.

Wasn't the war in Kosovo planned to last 3 days ? Underestimate the enemy, and you're sure to have very bad suprises.

[TheStinger]

The amount of force they are putting together shows they are not underestimating. Most Iraqi units willl give up

[Spiffor]

Stinger : if you're sure, it is fine. I wonder why the war didn't start yet, as it will be so easy.

[TheStinger]

Because (I hope) they are going to get the UN to back it.

[Dauphin]

IOW, because the PR war is still being fought.

[TheStinger]

if you like

[Kropotkin]

Yeah, most Iraqi units will probably give up but one shouldn't count on it as some of them will probably think of it as defending their home if the US et al. strikes at Baghdad. That misstake has been done before, like during the Gallipoli-campaign.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Big Crunch
IOW, because the PR war is still being fought.

Isn't it being lost, with less and less people supporting the war ?

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Isn't it being lost, with less and less people supporting the war ?

When the UN backs the war, the majority of people will back it.

[MrBaggins]

When push comes to shove... and victory is won... the ney-sayers will be noticably silent.

[Barley]

The war will be over within 7 days, then all the anti war brigade will have to explain why they were wrong about evrything.

No! the battle may be over in 7 days but the war will go on and on and on. You need to address the fundamental causes, why there are 000's of muslims willing to give their lives for their cause.

By attacking Iraq you will further this cause and the hatred shared by many (I dont hate the yanks but like many can sympothise with the reason for it, and that basically boils down to your constant persuit of American eliteism & self-interest [already demonstrated in this thread]).

Until you listen you'll never learn, until you learn the war will never end.

[TheStinger]

What drivel. Saddams regime is not religious based, he does not hate the west because of Israel or anything like that.

Saddam hates us because we kicked him out of Kuwait and imposed sanctions on him. He is a classic power mad demegogue in the Stalin mold.

He wants you to think its about religion to get other Arabs on board, and you have fallen for it

[Spiffor]

Stinger :
The problem is that many anti-US leaders want the Arab population to think it is about religion or clash of cultures. Each tiem the US will wage war to a muslim (and even more to an Arabic) country, the hate against the US will progress, whether the objective reasons have to do with religion or not.

[Barley]

Ive not fallen for it, gosh far from it. I am concerned though that there are many many Muslims that will either fall for it or use it as religious justification to further their cause.

At the end of the day like and I have to make a choice im squarely behind America, yes it may not seem that way from some of my posts but im trying to be representive of the other side of the coin. But for the record I dont think the attack is currently justifiable in the scheme of global peace and other issues.

Why not invest the $billions youll spend on saving lives by building heathcare infrastructure in the Middle East or Africa?