Mumia Abu-Jamal

[Winston]

Abu-Jamal is a classic example of how easy it is to install mass deception in left wingers looking for a cause, at least here in Europe. Many people consider him a persecuted saint based on the cleverly conducted campaign on his behalf. He actually is a celebrity in the class of Nelson Mandela with some lefties here. (No comparison on my part).

Nonetheless. Guilty. As. Hell.

I also can't begin to imagine how cruel this media circus surrounding him must be on the relatives of officer Faulkner.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You're Welcome...

That also results in its biggest critique as well. The argument goes that in voire dire for criminal cases, the defense should be able to eliminate whoever he wishes because it is a trial that, if it goes against him, will lead to a loss of liberty or even life.

Personally, I think the whole concept of peremptory challenges should be stricken.

[Dinner]

The law says reasonable doubt not a shadow of a doubt; Mumia is a convicted cop killer and the jury's verdict needs to be carried out. Leftists concocting wild stories and what if campaigns doesn't amount to any new evidience. The jury heard the facts, they heard the aurguments, they decided which version of events they found most creditable.

It is time for Mumia to be executed. This is the law as decided by the people and their will needs to be done.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Winston
Abu-Jamal is a classic example of how easy it is to install mass deception in left wingers looking for a cause, at least here in Europe. Many people consider him a persecuted saint based on the cleverly conducted campaign on his behalf. He actually is a celebrity in the class of Nelson Mandela with some lefties here. (No comparison on my part).

Nonetheless. Guilty. As. Hell.

I also can't begin to imagine how cruel this media circus surrounding him must be on the relatives of officer Faulkner.

I think it's awful, so I do what I can when I run into this crap. Study this site -- it's an excellent resource for debunking what the Mumia supporters fling around:

http://www.danielfaulkner.com/index.html

[Winston]

Mad Monk, I'll add the site to my links for future reference, thanks.

[TheStinger]

Of course these are the same left wingers who pushed for the aquital of people convicted of the Guilford and Birmingham IRA bombings in the 1970's.

They turned out to be correct.

I have no idea if he is guilty or innocent, but just because the family of the dead policeman think he should die doesn't mean he should.

[Winston]

Originally posted by TheStinger

I have no idea if he is guilty or innocent...

Then I suggest you try studying the facts of the case - something those lefties I was refering to clearly didn't bother to do before spraypainting half of Copenhagen with "Free Mumia".

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Winston
something those lefties I was refering to clearly didn't bother to do before spraypainting half of Copenhagen with "Free Mumia".

Is he really that big a deal in Europe? I honestly had no idea.

[TheStinger]

I've never heard of him

[Winston]

DinoDoc, he's big with large segments of the left, but to the most aggressive and misguided anarchists and so-called autonomous socialists he's Che Guevara incarnate.

[CerberusIV]

Until someone comes up with a foolproof way of telling whether someone is innocent or guilty then the death penalty is just a bit too final.

It is possible to compensate (to some extent) for time wrongly in prison but a posthumous pardon isn't really very helpful.

I don't know, or much care, whether this person is guilty or not, I just don't agree with the death penalty because judicial systems aren't that infallible.

[Dinner]

Black Nationalists groups used to run around spray painting "Free Mumia" all over buildings and sidewalks when I was in college. I'm all for free speech but vandalism is a crime and this clueless jackles should be convicted of it.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by CerberusIV
I don't know, or much care, whether this person is guilty or not,

At least you are honest.

[Boris Godunov]

I've never seen anything remotely convincing that Mumia was innocent. I'm opposed to his execution as I am opposed to all executions, but there's little doubt that he is guilty of the crime. Considering the whole issue of his constant lying (Check out his false claim on his book to be a Peabody Award winner), I don't see any reason to believe him.

I'd just like to say that I think if there were no death penalty, Mumia wouldn't be a celebrity and the Faulkner family wouldn't be being subjected to this crap.

[Winston]

That's a bit like saying if there were no banks, there'd be no bank robberies.

Well, he is under a sentence of death. Hardly anybody's fault but his own.