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  • Yeah but moneypenny is a liberal mississipian.

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    • Strictly an opinion...

      "Southern Culture" (as applicable to the US) is:

      1. Freeing slaves was wrong.
      2. States are superior to the National government.
      3. Tradition is better than education.
      4. The only good education is a military school education.
      5. "Code words"

      Need I mention that I am not a Southerner?

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      • Why do people have to reduce themselves to insults?

        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        Hey John... is that your progressive attitude towards women espoused by jimmytrick coming out .
        You know, for a boy who wouldn't (and likely still hasn't) even tell his parent's of his g/f existence for fear of retaliation, you are a FINE one to speak of "progressive attitudes" towards women.
        Last edited by JohnT; January 24, 2003, 10:44.

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        • Originally posted by AnnC

          What jimmytrick describes is not Southern culture. It's rural/small-town trash culture, and it's the same all over the US. Trash types in Washington state (where I presently live) are pretty much the same as trash types in the Carolinas (where I grew up).
          This is so true, its amazing. The accents are the same, the attitudes are the same, the idiocy is the same. "Trailer" is the most widespread dialect in the country... problem is, if your horizons are limited to your parents' white-flight neighborhoods and your college campuses, you will never realize the similarities of people all across the country.

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          • Originally posted by cavebear
            Strictly an opinion...

            "Southern Culture" (as applicable to the US) is:

            1. Freeing slaves was wrong.
            2. States are superior to the National government.
            3. Tradition is better than education.
            4. The only good education is a military school education.
            5. "Code words"

            Need I mention that I am not a Southerner?

            Typical yankee propaganda

            Originally posted by Hueij All I know about Southern culture comes from movies like Gone With The Wind, Mississipi (did I miss an 's' here?)
            You got the s's but missed a p "Mississippi"
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            • I have a question -- why is it that black Southerners do not grieve over the loss of the mythic "Lost Cause" as white Southerners do?
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • Why are you so eaten up with bashing the South?
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                • Originally posted by MrFun
                  I have a question -- why is it that black Southerners do not grieve over the loss of the mythic "Lost Cause" as white Southerners do?
                  There's a growing population of african americans who left the south in the 60's moving back. It was noticable enough to even be covered on 60 minutes. So while they're not gonna cry over the fall of the confederacy (I dont know any whites who do either) there are obviously some blacks who prefer southern culture (with its problems) to the 'behind your back' racism of the north.
                  We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                  • That is EXACTLY what Black friends of mine have said.
                    Ignorant people from the South are at least open in their ignorance.
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                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • Hell, that's what almost every Black person I've ever known has said. They'd rather know where people stand than be stabbed in the back.
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                      • That's not a color thing though. Almost anyone would want it that way.
                        The indication was that it was better here.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • Originally posted by JohnT
                          "I dunno, telling women that they can't wear pantsuits was HIGHLY offensive to the women in my section (as well as my g/f). Plenty of them said they wouldn't want a job in a company that wouldn't allow them to wear pantsuits and only want to see them in skirts."

                          Well, they need to grow up and get over it. Everybody has standards, and if a potential employee doesn't want to deal with them, then they shouldn't bother to apply. That's life in the big-leagues and is the sort of thing one has to adjust to if you want to stay in the bigs.
                          No, the women don't have to adjust to anything. The employers need to adjust to women wearing pants, not trotting around as sex objects in skirts. And if any employers can't adjust then they should be sued and properly hammered in the wallet.

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                          • Originally posted by SlowwHand
                            That's not a color thing though. Almost anyone would want it that way.
                            No, a lot of people like to avoid conflict. If other people just don't spout offensive views, that's fine with them.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • Originally posted by SlowwHand

                              The indication was that it was better here.

                              you crack me up

                              As I have said before, racism is national, not regional. For instance, in the immediate years before the Civil War, northern Midwestern white settlers opposed expansion of slavery not out of principle, but because they wanted their states to be free for white settlers, without blacks.

                              As for bashing the South -- many white Southerners seem to uphold the mythic "lost cause" and that the Civil War had nothing to do with race.

                              So since the war was over the "lost cause," and race and slavery were never issues, I asked a question -- why don't black Southerners mourn over the "lost cause" and proudly venerate the Confederate flag as white Southerners do.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • You seem to be highly focused on the South and racism in the South. Why don't you ever talk about racism in Iowa? What, your **** don't stink?
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