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Good job on remaining on-topic, jt! 
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"Do you want to say that now that the UN refused to authorize the war you are not in a worse position to attack than you were without going to the UN?"
I don't think so. Rather, we're in a better one, considering the articulation of the 1st resolution. If you can get 1/2 a loaf rather than none, why not take it?
The likes of Turkey probably would have wanted a 2nd resolution anyway, even if we didn't seek it.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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You never saw this post.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Well, I'd consider several Presidents to be mass murderers, most specifically Wilson, Truman, FDR, and LBJ, but many of the others too.It is very unlikely a man who can be elected president would want to be remembered throughout history as a mass murderer.
Obviously basic human morality and aversion to murder were not benchmarks he had to meet.Yes he did (not the same as today), he just passed them all.
You're telling me that Bush can't pretty much control public opinion through the media and the manufacturing of crises? Hell, it's worked for many other Presidents.We can not say the same about a dictator who has practically total control of the minds of the masses in his country (and others), and who will think what he wants them to think.
DD,
I just find it hypocritical that the one nation who has used atomic weapons to murder civilians (not to mention threatening the murder of hundreds of millions more) is telling other nations they can't have them, even as a defensive measure.You honestly don't get it, do you? Your views on nuclear proliferation are stupid at best and suicidal at worst.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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So what.Originally posted by David Floyd
I just find it hypocritical ...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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"Well, I'd consider several Presidents to be mass murderers, most specifically Wilson, Truman, FDR, and LBJ, but many of the others too."
David...
*JohnT shakes his head woefully*
Aw, forget it.
Naw, let me ask: do you realize that you are as wrapped up in your ideological dressings as much as any Mao's-Little-Red-Book-carrying Marxist?
You can answer this in another thread if you like. Or PM me - I don't necessarily want to hijack Dans thread about the 2nd Iraq resolution.Comment
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"France is trying to show her leadership creds to the rest of the EU, which is more important to her than showing leadership in the UN. France is too provincial and too weak to try to tackle issues outside the European borders, imo."
Excellent point. I would also add that it might have been a package deal with Germany for some EU internal agreements. Germany is playing an interesting game, but I wonder whether they aren't just shooting themselves in the foot.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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So you admit it's hypocritical?So what.
JohnT,
The difference is, I can back my views up much better than they can - much more consistently.Naw, let me ask: do you realize that you are as wrapped up in your ideological dressings as much as any Mao's-Little-Red-Book-carrying Marxist?Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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But, of course. You think Germany can now re-militarize the Rhine?Originally posted by DanS
"France is trying to show her leadership creds to the rest of the EU, which is more important to her than showing leadership in the UN. France is too provincial and too weak to try to tackle issues outside the European borders, imo."
Excellent point. I would also add that it might have been a package deal with Germany for some EU internal agreements.
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Bricks are consistently thick.Originally posted by David Floyd
The difference is, I can back my views up much better than they can - much more consistently.(\__/)
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Well, they did announce the 2 president (oof) plan in the last couple of days. Farm policy might have been part of the package too. But I guess it's just speculation.
The EU doesn't seem to give proper collegial deference to the views of the UK, IMO.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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A Foolish Consistency is the Hobgoblin of Small Minds, David.
I'm saying that you have yet to provide any real and substantive justification for your views on nuclear proliferation.Originally posted by David Floyd
So you admit it's hypocritical?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Before I can justify my views I need you to admit the obvious - that the US is being hypocritical. If we can't at least agree on that, it's pointless.I'm saying that you have yet to provide any real and substantive justification for your views on nuclear proliferation.Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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Hypocritical viz the solutions re: Iraq and NK? I can buy that.
Hypocritical in regards to our stance on nuclear proliferation? You are in Fantasyland!Comment
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How is it NOT hypocritical for a nation with thousands of nuclear weapons and hundreds of ICBMs, that also happens to be the only nation ever to use atomic/nuclear weapons to murder civilians, to tell a little pissant desert nation 6000 miles away they can't have a few chemical or nuclear warheads?Hypocritical in regards to our stance on nuclear proliferation? You are in Fantasyland!Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/DaveDaDouche
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