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  • I would not apologise for something I had no part in, I would just express regret. Similarly I think that an expression of regret from the PM could be made, an apology is not really appropriate.
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    • At that time, WWII vets put up quite a protest.
      They would, because of all the lies and propaganda the government fed them for years. In 1940, they wouldn't have felt that way, yet once the government got ahold of them and brainwashed them, they suddenly changed their minds. ****ing government
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      • Originally posted by David Floyd


        They would, because of all the lies and propaganda the government fed them for years. In 1940, they wouldn't have felt that way, yet once the government got ahold of them and brainwashed them, they suddenly changed their minds. ****ing government
        Remember Pearl Harbor. Payback's a *****.

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        • Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened if the US hadn't acted like an aggressive sonofa***** in 1846 and 1898 (and in taking over Hawaii), or if they hadn't restricted free trade with Japan.
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          • Ludicrous.

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            • Actually it's true. If we hadn't been in the Pacific as a result of our aggressive wars in the 19th Century, Japan couldn't possibly have attacked PacFlt at Pearl Harbor. Think about it.
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              • Did the Japanese invade Viet Nam and China because of past wrongs, Mitty?

                They were bullies. They would have taken their shot regardless. It was a power play, Floyd. Didn't matter what we did in the 1800's. "There could be only one!"

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                • Saying that Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened if we didn't own Pearl Harbor isn't exactly brilliant insight.

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                  • They were bullies. They would have taken their shot regardless. It was a power play, Floyd. Didn't matter what we did in the 1800's. "There could be only one!"
                    Look, genius, it's simple logic. The US had bases in the Pacific because of US aggression. If you take away the aggression, you take away the bases. If you take away the bases, Japan can't attack them. Remember, the US wouldn't be on the West Coast either, so I'm not sure where you think Japan would have attacked, or why.
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                    • Originally posted by David Floyd


                      Look, genius, it's simple logic. The US had bases in the Pacific because of US aggression. If you take away the aggression, you take away the bases. If you take away the bases, Japan can't attack them. Remember, the US wouldn't be on the West Coast either, so I'm not sure where you think Japan would have attacked, or why.
                      This is silly. The Japanese didn't attack them to right a wrong. But to defeat a rival. They didn't attack Vietnam to right a wrong either. But because it was something to pick on.

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                      • Fine, but you are missing the point. If we hadn't acted immorally originally, Japan could not have acted immorally against us.

                        Besides which, it was wrong for the government to restrict free trade with Japan.
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                        • Oh, and in any case, it does not speak very highly of the personal morality of many people when they support and defend the atomic bombing of civilians as revenge for an attack on a purely military target that only killed a few thousand people.
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                          • Originally posted by David Floyd
                            Besides which, it was wrong for the government to restrict free trade with Japan.
                            Why are we required to to trade with Japan?
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                            • We aren't. But the US government has a moral obligation not to infringe upon the freedom of Americans (including American businesses) to trade with whomever they want.
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                              • You still haven't explained how that constitutes valid cause for war.
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