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**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:02

Originally posted by Asher
The charge has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to lead the province.

Drama queens go home.

He broke the law, Asher. While in office, and in a foreign country. I usually downplay this sort of personal indiscretion (no matter what party they're from), but the criminal nature of his action actually makes me favour his resignation.

EDIT: sp

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:04

Even MADD doesn't think he should resign anymore.

The only people who think he should are people who disagree with him politically.

Gee....

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:07

Asher, did you see me calling for Ralphie's resignation?

And The www.madd.ca site still has them requesting his resignation until "the issue is resolved". Which has been their position since the beginning.

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:08

Asher, did you see me calling for Ralphie's resignation?

Why would you call for his resignation? He didn't do anything wrong at all. There's no excuse.

And The www.madd.ca site still has them requesting his resignation until "the issue is resolved". Which has been their position since the beginning.

Give the webmaster time to update it, I just saw it on the news 5 mins ago.

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:12

Originally posted by Asher

Why would you call for his resignation? He didn't do anything wrong at all. There's no excuse.

Give the webmaster time to update it, I just saw it on the news 5 mins ago.

When government officials break the law in such a serious manner then they should resign. Period. My point is that I don't call for the resignation of public figures when they act stupid; I do when they commit criminal acts.

He is supposed to write the law and then breaks it? Come on. He should find another line of work.

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:13

Everyone breaks the law in some way or another, it's stupid to assume everyone won't.

He didn't contest the charge, he appeared to show true remorse afterwards. That's why MADD retracted their all for his resignation, they thought he showed true remorse...

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:19

Aswher, I've never been arrested, never been in jail. Is it really wrong that we ask such a simple thing of our government officials while they hold office?

And if I was being political, I'd be asking the Libs to keep him. Best way of eroding their support.

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:21

Politicians are crooks by default.

If he resigned someone who voters DIDN'T vote for would take office, all because he made a stupid mistake that he expressed remorse for in a different country.

He's fine in office, we shouldn't waste taxpayers time and money changing up leadership.

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:24

Voters vote for their representative in the leg. ass.

They know that the head of the party will not necessarily remain so. It happens all the time in Canada. And a leadership race won't cost the taxpayers money; it will cost the BC Liberal party money.

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:29

I think Chretien should resign for all of his scandals, his scandals actually hurt Canadians...

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:33

a) he is resigning

b) he hasn't been convicted of breaking the law (which Mr. Campbell undoubtedly will be)

c) Mr. Campbell seemed to be fond of calling for the resignation of NDP politicians when he was in the opposition, and they weren't even going to be convicted...

**Asher** · January 13, 2003, 02:35

Does anyone else think that if a premier is elected on a campaign promise, he should be convicted of breaking the law when he breaks it?

Mr. Campbell seemed to be fond of calling for the resignation of NDP politicians when he was in the opposition, and they weren't even going to be convicted...

Of course. What other purpose does the opposition have?

It's expected.

**Jaguar** · January 13, 2003, 02:42

I thought this thread would allude to Dr. Strangelove somehow. Maybe I was wrong.

**KrazyHorse** · January 13, 2003, 02:45

Originally posted by Asher
Does anyone else think that if a premier is elected on a campaign promise, he should be convicted of breaking the law when he breaks it?

No, because he can always plead that circumstances intervened. Which is what they do plead. If it can be proven that they defrauded the public with a policy they never intended to follow, then they should be tossed in jail.

**Tingkai** · January 13, 2003, 10:03

Originally posted by Asher
Everyone breaks the law in some way or another, it's stupid to assume everyone won't.

Is it really too much to ask our elected leaders not to commit crimes while in office?

I'd say it is completely reasonable to expect our leaders to uphold the law and not to break the law.

There's a big difference between not implementing a campaign promise and committing a crime like Campbell did.

You might be willing to have a criminal as your premier, by I am not.

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