Why the US has to be and should be "imperialist"

[Zero]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Sava:

Once again...

Japanese act imperialistically in Korea... Koreans become second-class citizens of the Japanese Empire with no hope of being accepted into the ethnic state that is Japan.

US acts imperialistically in Korea. Koreans will be equals to Americans and be accepted into a multi-national state that has a history of accepting people of various ethnicities

Multi-national states are better... Achaemid Persia, Rome, Ottoman Empire...


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actually, koreans were one of the few ethnic group that they tried to assimilate. They were given japanese names and forbidden to speak korean (to erase korean identity)

[Al B. Sure!]

Calc II:

Alright but that is also another point... the Japanese amazingly managed to be willing to accept Koreans but only through an intense Japanese-izing of Koreans... that's not quite acceptance


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[Sava]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

multi-national state? You do know of course, that the percentages of our government officials don't translate into equal ratios of the actual US population.

That made no sense whatsoever...

Leave it to Sava to make Speer look like a genius!

the ratio of ethnicities of our government officials...

I've had a long day of work, and I'm moving on Saturday, give me a break.

[Al B. Sure!]

oh yeah and Sava...

you are forgetting the US is majoritarian. if everyone in the US voted based on their race, everyone in gov't will be caucasion as whites are the majority.

having minority groups get population proportionate representation will not happen under the sort of republic the US is.

but of course, people don't usually vote along racial lines (sometimes they do but not always) so gov't officials will be a little bit more diverse. and the racial identity of politicians has little effect on gov't policies. Political leaders in the 60's was mostly white but they still passed civil rights legislation


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[Sava]

Yeah, and how many Korean Senators are there? Congress people? How about Korean presidents? Or Korean CEO's?

yeah... that's equality for you

Compare the demographics of the richest 1% of Americans with the rest of the population, and you'll find that this multi-national, "We are the World", land of equality that you think the US is... doesn't exist.

[Zero]

Thats why they protested. Also, even while they were trying to assimilate, Japanese were racist to them. So it wasnt a exactly all out assimilation during World War II. But the whole government's intention was to eventually dissipitate the difference between koreans and japanese in the long run i guess.

Most Korean elders on that are on my dad's family side has inferiority complex. I think this is because they've been propagandized to death to be embarrassed of korean culture, in order to give up korean identity. That would explain why they dont like the japanese so much.

[Zero]

I think I know one korean congressman!~ (clap clap) mY dad wont shut up talking about this korean man in US politics.

By the way, ratio of ethnic group in goverment does not have to reflect ratio of the population. To make it extreme, you are then sggesting affirmative action or even a quote on government official. Crazy talk!!!

[Pekka]

Ok if that's the real question... chinese, japanese, russians or americans.... NEVER! I will die fighting .
The real question is when we're going to start expanding.. and then my american friends.. you get to be part of our racial nation .
We won't expand to China though.. they'll be our enemies, because what's a world without enemies.

[Al B. Sure!]

Sava:

compare the demagraphics of the poorest 10% of Americans and you will see they are roughly proportionate by population (well except American Indians who are disproportionately impoverished but that's another story)


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[Sava]

"roughly"... but that only means that our country is lead by evil, rich white people that are smart enough to know that they've got to keep a lot of their white brethren poor in order to not draw suspicion.

America is about assimilation. It only accepts your culture as long as you keep it to yourself.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Pekka

We won't expand to China though.. they'll be our enemies, because what's a world without enemies.

You cant unite without a common cause. and common cause often requires common enemies. Look at world war II. US allaince lineup: Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Stalin. YEAH!

[Al B. Sure!]

rich white people? more like rich jews...

but what the hell does 1% being rich matter? They have little effect on the mainstream of American society


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[Sava]

your true colors eventually surface you nazi ****er... I'm done talking with you...

[Al B. Sure!]

what the hell?

[Al B. Sure!]

Sava:

it may be true that 1% of the richest are disproportionately of a certain ethnic group... but that has little bearing on the mainstream of american society. 1% do not determine the ideas of a nation. When you examine the demagraphics of the largest economic class in America (the lower middle class), you will see that they are proportionate with the population. This is the core of American society and the core is proportionate


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