What the hell is wrong with the Germans?

[Drake Tungsten]

You are still generalising.

So?

[aahz_capone]

Originally posted by Trajanus


I don't give a rats ass what Time thinks, it's not because Time says Germany is the heart of Europe that it actually is the heart of Europe, Germany doesn't control Europe alone, not at all really!

Yes, well I agree with you there. Only economically is germany a main focus of europe, and thankfully not any other way. But still, economy does drive europe and america seems to see the economic powerhouses as the political leaders. Thats why germany's reputation outside europe concerns other europeans.

TIME has been annoying me in the past few years by getting dumbed down and very pro-rebuplican. I've been getting Newsweek recently because they are a tad better, but even that nowadays.... economist next...

Originally posted by Trajanus

Well apparently Schröder was the only one who strongly opposed warmonger Bush in his attempts for a war, unfortunately he was alone so he couldn't go on with his opposition, and that's why afterwards Bush controlled Schröder like a little schoolboy... I think that illustrates the power of Germany, it might be very important, but still if it doesn't get support from the rest, it is powerless against the US..

I don't beleive Schroder personally gives a wienerschnitzle about whether America goes warmangoering or not. He's just riding the populist's agenda. The only reason he spoke up against USA was because that would win him the lelection. It's pathetic how the electorate are swung on single-issue platforms. Don't they know there's more to a government than the one issue at hand? If he really was serious he would have fulfilled his campaign message by siding with the russians and french. But, no, he immediatly goes to whipe Bush's crack. I thought Blair was ass-kissing, but this guy....


And about the oil, yeah, it's a real shame. The faster we get non-oil dependant energy techs, the better off we'll be politically.

[HershOstropoler]

"He's just riding the populist's agenda."

The opposition's view was barely different. May have tipped a narrow election, but not more. And he's still annoying the Bushies, about the only consistency Schröder managed....

[Pekka]

I'm glad we don't have that problem. There is one minister who wants to have gestapo though, but he is from Turku, you know the place where they solve unemployment by making them to be speed bumpers.
Fortunately we still have freedom of speech and the most free press in the world (Wohoo!).
I just came here to say that IF Germany is the heart of EU, then we are the balls, go ahead and look the euro coins.

[Harovan]

Hell, I used to post at Telepolis too, and partially things worse than H. Voss. Not about 9/11, but about the US government being a bunch of warmongering hypocrites. This seems to be legal, at least nobody has complained yet. Anyway, if I suddenly disappear, you know where I am .

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

You are still generalising.

So?

Do you really need an explanation of what is wrong with generalisations?

[jasev]

Every generalisation is false. Even this one

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
And Europeans still have the audacity to call the US a police state? ****ing hypocrites...

Now then Drake, could you please explain how the US' status as a police state changes whenever a German man gets prosecuted for a stupid reason. I'm really, really interested in your reasoning.

Otherwise I might just think that is the most idiotic argument ever, or that you are a worthless troll.

[Shi Huangdi]

"
Sounds Facist to me."

Are you calling me facist? Reread my post, I said I disagree with this(refering to arresting the man).

[DanS]

Yes, I've never understood how anti-nazi/anti-neonazi speech laws could perpetuate themselves in a free society. Does anybody know of other countries in Europe besides France and Germany where they have these laws?

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by SpencerH
It was a rhetorical question. I'm trying to get a response so that I can decide whether it was just a asinine statement or he's a nazi.

Neither. Never heard of Norman Finkelstein? Do you think he´s a Nazi?

http://serendipity.magnet.ch/more/finkel.html

Quote: 'But Finkelstein makes clear that the Holocaust Industry is not about making sure that Nazi depravity is not forgotten — it is about extorting huge sums of money from Switzerland, Germany and any other country which can be tarred with the Nazi brush.'

[Pekka]

I believe we can say whatever we want, as long as it's not trying to make someone commit a crime, or 'hate speech', as in trying to agitate people, attack some ethnicities. But it's pretty free, I can go out and shout whatever I want, to pretty much who ever I want to.
I think it's working very good. If I was a skinhead or something, I could go out and wear my insginias and all, shout what ever I want to as long as I'm not attacking anyone personally.
I've never heard of any arrests etc in here.

[Drake Tungsten]

While I don't agree that generalizations are always false, as some of you seem to think, it turns out I wasn't generalizing in the slightest. The Council of Europe adopted a measure that would criminalize Internet hate speech late last year. The Council of Europe speaks for "Europeans", doesn't it?

My "****ing hypocrites" statement still stands...

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
As a matter of interest, in the US is it a crime to encourage someone else to commit a crime?

Only if there is present capability and imediate risk that the crime will occur. I the person being dncourgage is in proximity to the proposed victim with a real capacity to kill yes. I the prospes victim is distant, no.

[KrazyHorse]

Tribbie's still here? I'd have thought you guys would have chased him away by now you pansies.