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  • #31
    As a matter of interest, in the US is it a crime to encourage someone else to commit a crime? (a la 'Shoot the bastard!')

    If it is (which I hope it is!) wouldn't Americans regard this as a violation of their right to free speech?

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    • #32
      1. It is. 2. Some do.
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      • #33
        You're not arrested for the free speech, you are arrested for being an accomplice to murder. If you said it under your breath and the murderer didn't hear you, then you'd probably be acquitted.

        It would probably have to be proven that your statement was partly and directly responsible for the murder, or that you otherwise conspired to commit the murder.

        Just conjecture on my part though.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by HolyWarrior
          What do you expect after being pussywhipped by the holocaust extortionists the past 50 years?
          "holocaust extortionists" WTF?
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          • #35
            he means the jews, obviously.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Al'Kimiya

              Hum So torturing a german would be asking him about his heritage over and over again.


              You are even worse than the Spanish inquisition.

              The guy was, of course, acquitted.
              Blah

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin

                Despite prior attempts and current socio-economic diplomatic efforts via the EU, Germany != Europe.
                Unfortunately, at leats economically, that seems to be the case. And it's messing it up for us othe europeans. Schroeder is particularly pissing me off. TIME called Germany "the heartland of the EU" and that the heart is sick (as it is) and schroeder isn't doing crap to clean it up. Who voted for this two-faced ass? He only got in because he played the pacifist card and even now he's licking Bush's ass for apologies...

                Role on the day when we get a proper constituition in the EU and one nations stupid decisions won't drag down the rest (because they won't be able to make stupid decisions, that should happen in brussels).


                ANYWAY, back to the freedom of speech and accessory to murder topic.

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                The cultural and classically educated at 'poly should know what I'm talking about.

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                • #38
                  Despite prior attempts and current socio-economic diplomatic efforts via the EU, Germany != Europe.


                  The Germans aren't the only ones who place these types of limits on free speech. The French have done the same thing in the past regarding Nazi paraphenalia and other European states have similar laws on the books.
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                  • #39
                    good
                    urgh.NSFW

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                    • #40
                      i can sort of understand why germany does it, but it seems to be an unnecessary restriction on free speech, especially in other european states.
                      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                      • #41
                        bad

                        freedom of speech shouldn't be confined, and by hiding these evils know one will learn from them and drive the evil underground. Only by exposing them to daylight can we learn to be prepared to fight them off and counter.

                        EDIT: oops! I think I just started a huge ranting debate! Sorry Settler...

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                        • #42
                          And Europeans still have the audacity to call the US a police state? ****ing hypocrites...
                          Nah man Europe is nowhere near the US as a police state
                          Besides, Germany isn't Europe, it's only the European economically most important state but that's it.

                          TIME called Germany "the heartland of the EU"
                          I don't give a rats ass what Time thinks, it's not because Time says Germany is the heart of Europe that it actually is the heart of Europe, Germany doesn't control Europe alone, not at all really!

                          He only got in because he played the pacifist card and even now he's licking Bush's ass for apologies...
                          Well apparently Schröder was the only one who strongly opposed warmonger Bush in his attempts for a war, unfortunately he was alone so he couldn't go on with his opposition, and that's why afterwards Bush controlled Schröder like a little schoolboy... I think that illustrates the power of Germany, it might be very important, but still if it doesn't get support from the rest, it is powerless against the US..

                          Besides, the only reason why Russia and France were being annoyed with this war is because their oil companies have contracts in iraq, and the US or British oil company haven't! Bush can't get his preciousss in Iraq...

                          So basically these countries only have oil concerns, the rest doesn't matter for them...
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by C0ckney
                            he means the jews, obviously.
                            It was a rhetorical question. I'm trying to get a response so that I can decide whether it was just a asinine statement or he's a nazi.
                            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                            • #44
                              You know, those two don't really contradict each other.
                              urgh.NSFW

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                                Despite prior attempts and current socio-economic diplomatic efforts via the EU, Germany != Europe.


                                The Germans aren't the only ones who place these types of limits on free speech. The French have done the same thing in the past regarding Nazi paraphenalia and other European states have similar laws on the books.
                                You are still generalising.
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