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  • #16
    Re: What the hell is wrong with the Germans?

    Well, they invade France a lot ... erm, sorry, you asked whats wrong with them ... Nevermind.

    The German constitution (or whatever document they use instead) was changed after the second WW. What Americans may call free speech is far more restricted - and not only in relation to the holocaust/swastika but in other areas as well. What might simply be called hate-mongering elsewhere is often a punishable offence...

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    • #17
      Yup, that's why more often than not I choose to buy outside of Germany. I think it's kind of silly but in games that have to do with WWII there are no nazi symbols in the german versions as they rae outlawed too ! Talking about freedom of expression...
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      • #18
        Originally posted by The Pioneer
        Yup, that's why more often than not I choose to buy outside of Germany. I think it's kind of silly but in games that have to do with WWII there are no nazi symbols in the german versions as they rae outlawed too ! Talking about freedom of expression...
        in axis and allies they use a cross (not the iron cross):

        they had swastikas in wolfenstien
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        • #19
          And Europeans still have the audacity to call the US a police state? ****ing hypocrites...
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          • #20
            I think that I'm not having sex with a hypocrite...

            I'd better start choosing my words more carefully...
            I'm not a complete idiot: some parts are still missing.

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            • #21
              Hopefully the European Court of Humans rights will put a stop to this.

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              • #22
                And it's obvious the comment was meant sarcastically, he called the perpetrators of 9/11 'murderers'.

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                • #23
                  I want to hear how this all ends, how shameful of them to even accuse

                  And it's obvious the comment was meant sarcastically, he called the perpetrators of 9/11 'murderers'.
                  Doesn't prove a thing, I'm afraid . If you think it does, you have wrong definition of the word in your head. I can't believe this is the second time I'm whining about this

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                  • #24
                    There's a simple answer to this as a few have indicated here.

                    Germans are ashamed to be Germans even today. I have asked Germans where they come from and they are VERY reluctant to tell me.

                    Germany has a genocide complex. DUH.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lars-E
                      Germans are ashamed to be Germans even today. I have asked Germans where they come from and they are VERY reluctant to tell me.

                      Germany has a genocide complex. DUH.
                      Hum So torturing a german would be asking him about his heritage over and over again.
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                      • #26
                        I'm confused by this. Surely the Germans have no jurisdiction over the events in New York, so does it really count as a 'criminal act' as far as the German courts are concerned? Is it enough that it is a 'criminal act' in another country?

                        If it does, would they prosecute someone for criticising Saddam Hussein, because surely that is a 'criminal act' in Iraq.....

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                        • #27
                          Nice how you got your balls in a twist. The guy was, of course, acquitted.

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                          Someone's been crapping into the prosecutor's head to even push this. Well, at least he wised up during the trial and ended pleading for acquittal, too.

                          "Is it enough that it is a 'criminal act' in another country?If it does, would they prosecute someone for criticising Saddam Hussein, because surely that is a 'criminal act' in Iraq..... "

                          An act in another country that would constitute a crime under german law. So 9/11 yes, pissing off Hussy no.
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                          • #28
                            I still think that it stinks this ever came up. the thing we've said here...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                              And Europeans still have the audacity to call the US a police state? ****ing hypocrites...
                              Despite prior attempts and current socio-economic diplomatic efforts via the EU, Germany != Europe.
                              Last edited by Dauphin; January 10, 2003, 09:15.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                                I disapprove of this, but if Germany is going to ban stuff like pro-nazi speech, it should also have the right to ban pro-Taliban speech.
                                Don't forget that blood and human dismemberment is prohibited in video games in Germany. More of that 'glorification of a criminal act' business I suppose.
                                Sounds Facist to me.
                                :-p

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