C'mon Dems, come up with a Bush-beater!

[red_jon]

The American left are dead in the water, at least for a good while yet.

Unless something goes disastrously wrong (and let's face it, it has to be really bad - voters don't seem to have noticed that the economy is already doing pathetically), Bush will win in 2004.

Hey, ya want a liberal-left government, move to Canada.

[DanS]

"voters don't seem to have noticed that the economy is already doing pathetically"

No, it's not.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You have a strange definition of "a hell of a lot."

Bush had more than one term, survived reelection, and was an executive position. That qualifies him as having more experience than Edwards.

But the point was that Bush faced in his campaign opponents who were more experienced than him, and he still won. So obviously experience doesn't necessarily make or break a candidate.

[Andrew1999]

It's all about money and media manipulation anyway. Talent and qualifications don't matter. Just pick some white male with a pulse, give him $1 billion and slant the news in his favor, and you've got your "Democratic front runner."

[Jac de Molay]

No Democrat will win if they are too timid to challenge and question Bush on every detail of foreign and domestic policy. The next candidate, whoever they may be, has to be an absolute pitbull.

[MBD]

Originally posted by DetroitDave
The next candidate, whoever they may be, has to be an absolute pitbull.

Another Hillary Clinton supporter...

[Jac de Molay]

Dress her up in some S and M regalia, and I think we have ourselves a winner.

[MBD]

Hillary Clinton -- maybe the most divisive public figure around.
John Kerry -- makes Al Gore seem like Robin Williams.
Howard Dean -- media darling, but can't win New Hampshire with Kerry in the race, so no MO, no money, and no nomination.
John Edwards -- thin resume, nice hair. Maybe in 2008.
Dick Gephardt -- favorite candidate of the unions and Barbra Streisand
Al Sharpton -- makes Jesse Jackson look rational; still needs to explain the Tawana Brawley incident (like that's possible)
Joe Lieberman -- the anti-(Bill) Clinton, but Clinton's not around any more; still probably his nomination to lose.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Bush had more than one term, survived reelection, and was an executive position. That qualifies him as having more experience than Edwards.

Exactly. The executive thing helped immensly. If Edwards was the governor of NC, rather than a Senator....

But the point was that Bush faced in his campaign opponents who were more experienced than him, and he still won. So obviously experience doesn't necessarily make or break a candidate.

You are ignoring the point (maybe purposless). Bush won in a landslide during reelection, which made him the darling of the party (if he hadn't done reelection yet, the support for him would be much, much less). Also he ran against Senators and commentators. He was the only executive (other than Lamar Alexander, and he dropped out early). Being a Governor gives your a leg up... also even a SINGLE reelection helps. If Edwards was reelected in 2002, no doubt he'd be the front runner.

[MosesPresley]

Originally posted by HolyWarrior

Three words: Millionaire trial lawyer

What's wrong with that? Were you beaten by a trial lawyer as a kid. Most members of congress are lawyers.

The only people who can get noticed on the national stage are millionaires, unfortunately. We need free and equal TV time for all legitimate candidates and that will level the playing field. All cadidates would have an allotted amount of time for campaign ads.

I don't think Edwards will win the nomination, but he will get noticed and will probably have to face Hillary in 2008.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MosesPresley
Right now, I really like the NC senator John Edwards. He is a young man full of ideas,

and one of these dyas he might even share one with the rest of the world.

Historically speaking, the Dem's can only win the White House with Southerners, but Kerry, I think, is the liberals and centrists Great White Hope, so look for a Kerry-Edwards ticket in 2004.

[cavebear]

Some thoughts:

Sen Edwards = Sen John Kennedy
Bush II = Bush I
It will be the economy again in 2004
Southern Democrat candidates break the Republican base
Edwards: A Democrat with charisma again! Wow!

Southern Democrat with charisma, double Wow!

and (me) Poly Sci major, as well...

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Everyone seems to forget Howard Dean, which doesn't bode well for his candidacy. But he is the best I have seen so far.

I like him. Were the election today, and between Dean and Bush II, I would vote Dean. And the last Democrat I would have voted for was Truman.

[Sava]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Dean...

H. Clinton (ahhhh the Clinton presidency was bad, but would be better than Bush until 2008)
Lieberman (the anti-CLinton? I hope so...)
Kerry/Edwards (I honestly have no idea what these guys stand for...)

I think the Dem's lost in 2000 because Al Gore is a bore. IMO, if the Dem's put in anyone else with a pulse, Bush will be gone just like daddy!

[orange]

Edwards has made it quite clear...

"I'm running for the Presidency"

there will be no "Kerry-Edwards" ticket, according to him.