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**Panag** · December 31, 2002, 22:25

hi ,

, no comment from the thread starter , ....

have a nice day

**Dinner** · December 31, 2002, 22:26

Che, I see your point I just don't buy the slippery slope arguement. I especially don't see how enforcing the same immigration laws which have been on the books since the 1930's is some how a step towards national socialism.

**Tuberski** · December 31, 2002, 22:27

Originally posted by panag
hi ,

, no comment from the thread starter , ....

have a nice day

Like I posted before, she isn't even logged in.

ACK!

**Bonaparte** · December 31, 2002, 22:33

Immagrants used to come to this country to be Americans...yes they held onto there old ways, but eventually intergrated themselves into this society...they became American! Many of the immagrants of today simply want the advantages of being in this country and really do not want to be American...infact a large number of them do not even like Americans. These people should be kept out and only those people that can contribute to our society and that want to be American should be left in. The quote "Give us your huddled masses" doesn't mean we have to take in every piece of "rift-raft" from other countries. On another note, a lot of these people cannot even speak english...and it really bugs me to see spanish next to english on food lables...and what the heck is this "press 1 if you speak spanish press 2 if you speak english"...this is America we are supposed to be speaking english. Many of these immagrants don't even try to speak english and that goes to show you just how much they really want to be American. Get rid of the garbage and law-breakers. This country is a melting pot not a septic system!!!!

**chequita guevara** · December 31, 2002, 22:39

Originally posted by Bonaparte
Immagrants used to come to this country to be Americans...

Not all. The majority of Italians who came to the US just came here to make some money and then returned to Italy to buy a farm or start a business. The same is true of many Mexicans and South Asians today. Just because America is the land of opportunity doesnt mean you want to live here the rest of your life.

And I would remind you that our country is based upon riff-raff. Georgia was a penal colony and it hasn't improved since indepenedence.

**tandeetaylor** · December 31, 2002, 23:18

I haven't read all the replies yet, and I am so very thankful for all the moralizing, misguided though it is, but my real question was, does anyone have any advice?

My husband came here with a student visa. He went to school for awhile, but then he had financial troubles and he wasn't able to continue paying for school. That is when he became illegal. We would have applied for his green card earlier, but it is very expensive for a young married couple just starting out with a baby on the way.

And the particular reason that this is absurd is because he has been singled out because 1) he is a male, and 2) he's from Lebanon. I mean, with President Bush saying he wants to legalize Mexicans already living here, and with the fact that there are thousands of illegal aliens who aren't being targeted, this is completely unfair. If they were attempting to deport every illegal alien, that would be a little bit different.

As the spouse of a citizen, my husband has every right to become a permanent resident and then a citizen, btw. The inefficient and ludicrous INS taking so long to process applications is not our fault. If things were how they should be, he would already be a citizen. I'm a citizen of Lebanon, and I haven't even been there yet.

**tandeetaylor** · December 31, 2002, 23:24

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

she's gonna get a lot of the comments she's getting.

Well, the only reason I kinda got a little angry (and I support open immigration) is her 'Star of David on sleeves' crack. That is insulting to those Jews in Hitler's Germany.

Thank you, Master of What is Insulting to Everybody Else.

I'm sorry, but I feel that it is in many ways comparable. All this is is singling out members of a society because of gender and ethnicity.

**tandeetaylor** · December 31, 2002, 23:25

Originally posted by Tuberski
I like how Tandee made her little rant and then left the forums.

Sounds like she was baiting all of us.

ACK!

Sorry. I'm at a friend's house. I would've stayed if it was my computer.

**Ted Striker** · December 31, 2002, 23:26

Thanks for ****ing helping her you judgemental morons.

Tandee,

If you can get ahold of him, there is a guy on this forum named Lancer who may be able to help you with this case. He married a foreign girl so he's been through the process of proving that they are married to the INS and all, he may be able to point you to some people that can help. You'll have to email him though as his private mailbox is full.

For everybody else,

As far as the issue is concerned, it's her damn HUSBAND of all people!!!

And about the illegals, I say legalize the agriculture and service immigrants as I guarantee it would be IMPOSSIBLE to fill their jobs with citizens. For skilled workers it's a whole other issue, though. This country was built on the backs of immigrants and although we need controls don't lump them all in the same boat. (No pun intended.

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**Edan** · December 31, 2002, 23:26

Originally posted by tandeetaylor
All this is is singling out members of a society because of gender and ethnicity.

No, it's singling out someone who's done something illegal.

And, as I posted before, those that were arrested after registering, and only had minor immigration violations, were released soon afterwards. So I would recommend him registering. but that's just my uninformed opinion. Oh, and as someone else suggested, speak to an immigration lawyer - they're far better knowledgable on this subject then any of us are.

**tandeetaylor** · December 31, 2002, 23:29

Originally posted by Bonaparte
Many of the immagrants of today simply want the advantages of being in this country and really do not want to be American...infact a large number of them do not even like Americans.

If being an "American" means being like you, I'd prefer that they didn't try.

**chequita guevara** · December 31, 2002, 23:30

Originally posted by Edan
No, it's singling out someone who's done something illegal.

Wrong, they aren't targetting Arab, Iranian, and South Asian women nor are they targetting men (and women) from other areas either. tandee's correct, her husband is being targetted not because of what he has done but rather who he is.

**Ted Striker** · December 31, 2002, 23:32

Oh and definitley get a lawyer before you do ANYTHING. You need to cover your back and alot of the people that got rounded up in LA weren't allowed to talk to the outside for serveral days.

**tandeetaylor** · December 31, 2002, 23:33

Originally posted by Edan

No, it's singling out someone who's done something illegal.

CALL-IN GROUP 2 (added 11/22/02): CITIZENS OR NATIONALS OF Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Eritrea, Lebanon, Morocco, North Korea, Oman, Qatar, Somalia, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, and Yemen
Who Must Register (Group 2)?
If you are in this category you must register at a designated INS Office between December 2, 2002 and January 10, 2003.
If you are a male born on or before December 2, 1986, and
If you were inspected by the INS and last admitted to the U.S. as a nonimmigrant on or before September 30, 2002
If you did not apply for asylum on or before November 22, 2002, and
If you will be in the U.S. at least until January 10, 2003.

And, as I posted before, those that were arrested after registering, and only had minor immigration violations, were released soon afterwards.

A lawyer is telling us now that it will be a $5-8,000 bail.

I may have to leave again suddenly in awhile.

**chequita guevara** · December 31, 2002, 23:34

I suggest Canada.

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