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  • #31
    I'm going to guess he had a legal visa to be in the US at some point, probably a student visa, then overstayed it and getting married either before or after it expired.

    It's a sad Catch-22 that tandee's in, but she ought to realize that most people don't share her libertarian values, and so she's gonna get a lot of the comments she's getting. I believe in open immigration, but the citizens of the US also have a right to know who's moving in.

    I would contact an immigration lawyer. Find the money, cuz this government is in no mood to play around anymore. Most likely, because he's married to a US citizen and because he's applied for a green card, he won't be in too much trouble. But if he tries to dodge, they're gonna screw him hard.

    I hope things work out for you.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #32
      she's gonna get a lot of the comments she's getting.


      Well, the only reason I kinda got a little angry (and I support open immigration) is her 'Star of David on sleeves' crack. That is insulting to those Jews in Hitler's Germany.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Tuberski
        On the other hand, if he is an illegal immigrant, how is he going to petition the government?

        ACK!
        If you are not a citizen you don't have the right to vote. There for your opinions carry significantly less value with pandering politicans. The government of every state in the world is designed first and for most for it's own citizens' interests and then everyone else comes in second. It is a fact and I would not change it.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
          Well, the only reason I kinda got a little angry (and I support open immigration) is her 'Star of David on sleeves' crack. That is insulting to those Jews in Hitler's Germany.
          They only made Jews register at first. Things went from there. It's too late to worry about what might happen after it has already happened. The time to fight the dictatorship is before Kristalnacht, not after.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #35
            Which dictatorship are we supposed to be fight again?
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            • #36
              I like how Tandee made her little rant and then left the forums.

              Sounds like she was baiting all of us.

              ACK!
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • #37
                Yeah, but arresting illegal immigrants is nowhere NEAR putting star of david's on sleeves.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #38
                  "I think that we should consider an amnesty program once again so that we can get everyone registered. We need to do this for national security reasons."

                  I agree, but this has to be coupled with a more orderly way of dealing with large inflows of immigrants--this is a tough row to hoe. The political reality pre-9/11 forced a speak no evil-see no evil approach, which can longer be maintained. In short, we were lazy.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #39
                    I'd be against any form of an amnesty program on the grounds that it would be rewarding people for beheiving illegally. If we determine that current immigration quotas are insufficient to meant employment demands then, fine, let's increase the amount of legal immigraints who are allowed in. But our actions must be designed in a way that reinforces respect for the law. That means we need deport persons who have flaunted the law and crossed the borders illegally. Either our laws mean some or they do not there for we need to enforce them.
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                    • #40
                      I'll tell you what, we need to rotate the stock periodically.
                      People who have been in a country 10 generations, move them.
                      Take USA citizens, move them to Somalia.
                      Take 10 generation Somalians, move to Pakistan.
                      Pakistani's? Come on over.
                      Seriously. Look at what it takes to BECOME a U.S. citizen. True devotion and desire. Appreciation for what life can be.
                      Now, look at David Floyd or Sava, for instance.
                      You tell me that putting them in Somalia to live a while wouldn't do a butt-load of good ?
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #41


                        Plus you actually, have to KNOW U.S. history to be naturalized.

                        ACK!
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Oerdin
                          Which dictatorship are we supposed to be fight again?
                          The point, since it seems lost on you, is that a dictatorship often times sneaks up on you. Hitler wasn't a dicator the moment he became Chancelor, nor even after the Nazis burned the Reichstag. It slowly accumulated power until it was able to move openly. Whether the US is experiencing a similar acumulation of power or going through one of its periodic ultra-paranoid repressive episodes remains to be seen. But that doesn't mean you ignore the possibility until after it its happened. I'd much rather fight what probably isn't happening than wake up one day to see Bush announce a suspension of the Consitution. By then, it's too late to stop it.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #43
                            I agree with you Che!



                            ACK!
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                            • #44


                              True, I never had more appritation of the western way for doing things then when the army sent me to some god forsaken sh!t hole of a country. It is not until you have seen what happens when everything has gone wrong that you appritiate what has gone right.
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                              • #45
                                Show me one war where some individual liberties weren't infringed upon.
                                At least you still have stockings. Short supply in WWII.
                                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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