LOTR filled with white supremacist innuendo

[Alex]

Originally posted by Hurricane
As an Elvis fan, I will start my own petition if they dare call the third movie "The Return of the King".

[Bereta_Eder]

The actor who plays Aragorn has flipped BTW.


He has "become" Aragorn.


When he has some timeleft he goes riding without saddle even if it rains cats and dogs in New Zealand.

[aahz_capone]

Oh...


My...


God...

[Sava]

I'm sorry Markos, but that's a dumb assertion. During the Middle Ages, and such, the only black people were in Africa. I know this isn't the real world, but its setting is a sort of fantasy Middle Ages.

sigh...

[MarkG]

eeeer Sava how on earth did you think that i actually agreed with the quoted text?

[Sinapus]

Originally posted by aaglo
Yeah... and saruman looks like a jew...

Looks suspiciously like a Sith Lord.


"A Gandalf you will not pull on me!" -Yogi, from the Diary of a Crazed Mimbanite webcomic, which appears to be dead. Knew I should have archived my favorite ones. *sigh*

[Sava]

Originally posted by MarkG
eeeer Sava how on earth did you think that i actually agreed with the quoted text?

because I'm dumb, slow, and easily confused...

[Sten Sture]

Saruman is Nazism, the Uruk-hai were the SS; Sauron is Communism, Mordor is the USSR, the black witch of Arnor is Stalin; the elves of Lauthlorien are the French; Gondor is Europe; Aragon is Eisenhower, the Dunedin are the US, and the army of lost souls are Euro emigres to the RSA, NZ, Oz and the States; Harad is Japan; Pippin is the Irish, Merry is the Scots, Sam is the Welsh, and Frodo the English. So somehow the pathetic English midgets win WW2 by throwing a bit of gold in a furnace and the American fighting forces get second billing. Typical.

[Dinner]

Tolkien started writting the story in the 1930's so it is no wonder the story line is white dominated and Eurocentric. One has to look at the story from the historical prospective of the time in which it was written not with the hyper-race concenciousness of the 21st century.

BTW was I the only one who thought the two towers deviated WAY to much from the book? Faramir takes Frodo hostige? Elves fight at Helm's Deep? Elrond sends his family away before the end of the series? Bah, the Kiwi director screwed things up this time.

[SlowwHand]

The writer of the analysis is following his own thought processes, not Tolkien's.
LOTR is racist against trees, depicting Treebeard as slow and shuffling, along with all the other worthless Ents.

[Ned]

The story is about Atilla, et al.

Here is a snippet from the following site: http://www.viking.ucla.edu/volsungs/overview.html

The Saga of the Volsungs is one of the greatest tales of western storytelling. The unknown Icelandic author who wrote the saga in the thirteenth century based his prose epic on stories found in far older traditions of Norse heroic poetry. Volsunga Saga, as it is often called, recounts the mythic deeds of the dragon slayer, Sigurd the Volsung, and tells of runic knowledge. It is a story of love, betrayal, the vengeance of a barbarian queen, and schemes of Attila the Hun. The saga describes events from the ancient wars among the kings of the Burgundians, the Huns, and the Goths and treats some of the same legends as the Middle High German epic poem, the Nibelungenlied. In both accounts, though in different ways, Sigurd (Siegfried in the German tradition) acquires the Rhinegold and then becomes tragically entangled in a love triangle, involving a supernatural woman. In the saga she is a Valkyrie, one of Odin's warrior-maidens, the ones who choose the slain for Valhalla at the end of battle.

In Scandinavia, in the centuries after the Middle Ages, knowledge of the Sigurd story never died out among the rural population. Full of supernatural elements, including the schemes of one-eyed Odin, a ring of power, and the sword that was reforged, the tale remained alive in oral tradition. In the nineteenth century, as the Volsung story was rediscovered, becoming widely known throughout Europe.



J.R.R TOLKIEN AND RICHARD WAGNER

Translated into many languages, Volsunga Saga became a primary source for writers of fantasy and for those interested in oral legends of historical events and the mythic past of northern Europe. The saga deeply influenced William Morris in the nineteenth century and J. R. R. Tolkien in the twentieth. Tolkien, in particular found great inspiration the The Saga of the Volsungs, including the sword that was reforged, rings of power, the dragon on the hoard, and the creature Gollum. So, too, Richard Wagner drew heavily upon the Norse Volsung material in composing the Ring cycle as is discussed elsewhere in the Introduction to this translation.

Among other subjects, the comprehensive Introduction to this translation includes:


Representations of the Volsung Story in Norse Art

Myths, Heroes, and Social Realities

History and Legend: Burgundians, Huns, Goths, and Sigurd the Dragon Slayer

A Note on Richard Wagner and the Saga of the Volsungs

http://www.viking.ucla.edu/volsungs/overview.html

[Civfan]

I enjoyed the first movie without a thought about race. In the second movie, my girlfriend pointed it out that theirs no Asians, blacks or indians. Its nieve that the director, producer did not have any roles in these movies for other minorities. Again its fantasy, written a many years before but its no excuse for them to do this.
Well thats my thoughts. Happy new years to all

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Civfan
I enjoyed the first movie without a thought about race. In the second movie, my girlfriend pointed it out that theirs no Asians, blacks or indians. Its nieve that the director, producer did not have any roles in these movies for other minorities. Again its fantasy, written a many years before but its no excuse for them to do this.
Well thats my thoughts. Happy new years to all

So, Legolas, should have been Chinese?

ACK!

[Ned]

Originally posted by Tuberski


So, Legolas, should have been Chinese?

ACK!

Sauron

I beleive he is Atilla the Hun.

[Dinner]

Heck, I'd say the movie included lots of different races. Let's see there were people, elves, orcs, dwarves, ents...