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This one should be filed next to the outcry against the name of the film ("The Two Towers" was insensitive, of course, due to 9/11. Nevermind that it was written decades prior). People are idiots.
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grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
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When I was in college in the 70's. I took an English Lit. class where the entire semester was discussions of the Hobbit and LOTR. (yes, an easy A)
Our professors take was more on the lines of GB vs Nazi Germany. The Shire being English in it's perfect form in the West and Germany being the evil empire in the EAST. Germany had fought men in the past WW1, and were building to fight them again. England undermaned couldn't hope to attain victory without help from other countries/races. And by the end, the English countryside and people had suffered the ravages of war but were the main players in it's ultimate victory, but had assistance from the rest of the "good" world. There were hundreds of references throughout the book that could be attributed to this type of interpretation. And considering the proximity of these historical events to the time of it's writing, it is much more likely that they influenced the works.
Much more convincing but equally absurd.
RAHIt's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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hehe... I do wonder what he thinks the ents are... I mean they have to be something about them that should send a sublimal message...Without music life would be a mistake - Nietzsche
So you think you can tell heaven from hell?
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Nazi Germany was so evil, that even nature (ents) were motivated from their slow existence to contribute to it's defeat.
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It was a full semester
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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Lancer, I don't know what it is you were trying to say, but NZ has got to be one of the countries with the least racisim in the world.
On topic, I think it's just a co-incidence. I'm pretty good at spotting subliminal messages and I don't see anything really bad. Two things that I notice are that: Gandalf also has long stringy hair, and the height of the hobbits, would be closer to the short african and south american people. (can't remember the names.)
If anything, Tolkien, SUPPORTS more races, not one super race.be freeComment
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Tolkein is rolling in his grave. The man HATED being accused of allegory.
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The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
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Well, if you're going to read that much into Tolkien's books, note that the West is always right - it is in the West that Valinor, the Undying Land, exists. The East is always where evil comes from and where it returns.
And I don't think it's unfair to say Tolkien had certain races allied with Sauron - some of them came in riding elephants, for crying out loud. It just depends how much you want to read into it."Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt WhitmanComment
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Agreed. In any book about "good" vs "evil" people are always going to try to crow about their own personal interpretation.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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OMG THE TWO TOWERS IS INSENSITVE TO 9-11
LET'S ROLL
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The Elves were first put on earth in the east, I believe. And evil first came from the north.Well, if you're going to read that much into Tolkien's books, note that the West is always right - it is in the West that Valinor, the Undying Land, exists. The East is always where evil comes from and where it returns.Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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tolkien was south african. nuff said
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He should have been fired.Our professors take was more on the lines of GB vs Nazi Germany.Quod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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The women in his stories come off a bit bad though. But as an Oxford Don he was prolly more into public school boys anywas
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While in general Tolkien despised cheap allegory, in the prelude to one of his books he explains that there is a sort of allegory within his work. As a child he had a favorite spot, a wild pond that he frequented. A series of family tragedies forced him to move away. When he came back the place had been taken over by a mill. The name of this mill is immortalized in the book. More importantly he confesses in a way that he is a bit of a Luddite. His repeated referrences to the enemy as "dark", "black", and "foul" are not racist, but instead are anti-industrial."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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No, the elves came to middle earth via the western sea.Originally posted by Saint Marcus
The Elves were first put on earth in the east, I believe. And evil first came from the north.
In Tolkien's England the north and east were industrial and urban, the west was agrarian and rural."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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