Sodium, Sodium Everywhere! AUGH!!!

[The Mad Monk]

Blame the bacon. It's called 'salt cured' for a reason.

[MRT144]

i eat more salt than anyone i know. in fact i add salt to water often times when i excercise. i also carry a fresh water bottle too.

i still have below normal blood pressure...

[Traianvs]

Vegetarian food also contains salt...

many people think vegetarians eat their veggeis raw and all that...


I eat good spiced meals and everything, just not with meat in it! so being a vegetarian isn't going to help you (of course there will be less salt, but more olive oil, which is fattening )

[MRT144]

olive oil rocks!

[Ted Striker]

Gatekeeper,

Ham has 3 different kinds of sodium in it. IT should only be consumed on rare occasions and not as a staple because nutrition-wise it sucks.

[Odin]

Sodium and potassium ions also are what carry electricity through our nervous systems. Salt is added to foods as a preservative, usually.

Trajanus: Olive oil isnt that bad for you, it is unsaturated. It's a 100 time better for you than lard.

Edit: spelled sodium wrong

[Ted Striker]

Olive oil is beneficial, especially for the heart, it is a protector. The worst oils are hyrogenated oils and should be avoided at all costs. Hydrogenated oils are designed to harden foods, so imagine what they are doing to your cells. Your body has no clue what to do with hydrogenated oils so they just sort of float around and cause trouble.

[chequita guevara]

The best way to decrease the amount of salt in your food is to simply stop eating processed foods. This will also tend to lower the amount of fat in your food, so overall, it's a pretty healthy thing to do.

[Ted Striker]

chegitz I would like to hear your views on the food industry, particularly the processed foods industry. Kraft Foods (owned by Phillip Morris) is putting out some extreme crap. Hydrogenated oil should be BANNED as this is in my view the most unhealthy thing in our food supply.

[chequita guevara]

Honestly, I haven't educated myself enough on this subject to be able to argue well. I have just general positions. The food, in general, is terribly unhealthy to us as consumers but also to our environment. Workers in the food industry are among the most exploited in Western capitalism.

On the other hand, almost all Kraft cheeses are vegitarian (with one exception), so nothing is all bad.

You should probably check out the book, Fast Food Nation. It's about the food inudstry in the US, and the reviews and excerpts I've read from it are rather scary stuff.

I would also point out that the food industry has had laws passed in several states that allow corporations to sue for damages if you disparage their products, even if you are telling the truth. Oprah Winfry was caught up in one of these "veggie libel" laws. The constitutionality of the laws haven't been tested yet, as the judge tossed the case saying the beef producers had failed to make their case.

[Ted Striker]

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[chequita guevara]

It's not merely migrants. The people who work in fast food resteraunts, meat packers, fish workers, etc. Delta Pride catfish, for instance, doesn't allow its employees (mostly women) to go to the bathroom during work, the exits are chained shut, and they don't make a hell of a lot of money. A chicken processing plant in North Carlonia had a fire which killed lots of employees, because the exits were chained shut. Tyson chicken is hell to work for. Most independent family farmers live in dire poverty.

On top of that, the way meat and dairy animals are raised in this country is rather unhealthy. It used to be that only pork was unsafe to eat undercooked, because of trychanosis. That disease has largely been eradicated from the American food supply, but now chickens and eggs are so dangerous (eggs not so much as chicken) to eat that you must cook them thoroughly (you take a risk with every runny yolk) and sterilize you kitchen with bleach after making them. Cookie dough is no longer safe to eat raw.

Beef parts are ground up and fed to pigs, and pig parts are ground up and fed to beef. There is a danger that mad-cow type prions can be passed back and forth and thus to us.

Milk is now produced in the US using a hormone that no other indutrialized country has found safe to use in products for humans. The FDA has even prohibited BgH free milk products from saying they are BgH free, because that implies there's something wrong with BgH (which there is). Fortunately, you can get around that simply by paying almost twice as much for organic milk products.

Then, of course, because of factory farming, the animals are produces in such close conditions that the animals must be mega-dosed with antibiotics, which get passed on to us, which is linked to the rise of resistent strains of bacteria in humans.

And now they want to dump waste sludge on our vegitables as fertilizer (though if it weren't for the toxics and heavy metal content, and it were properly processed, it would be a good way to deal with human waste).

[Ted Striker]

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[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Also, I agree that it's rathar cruel the way the animals are treated. Doesn't that hormone you mentioned keep the cows pregnant for their entire life?

Does anybody here know of a good source of hormone, free ranged meat? Is there anything unhealthy about shipping food with dry ice?

If you can find it in your grocery, Maverick meats are free range, no hormones, and low anti-biotics. You pay a lot for it, though. Tastes good.

BgH doesn't make the cow pregnant. It stimulates overproduction of milk. Their udders become hugely overextended, to the point of dragging on the ground. They get infected very easily and there is a bit more pus in the milk. They are also higholy doesed with anti-biotics because of the infections. All milk cows, however, are kept in a state of "pregnancy" since they are always giving milk, instead of drying up when their calves are weened.

[The Mad Monk]

Kraft Foods (owned by Phillip Morris)

What, exactly, are you trying to say here?