Bill Frist: Compassionate Vivisectionist

[Tuberski]

The big problem with him adopting cats to take home and disect is this:

He had to kill them to dissect them. Couldn't he simply have "adopted" a cat that had already been put to sleep?

The dissecting doesn't disturb me, but the idea of him killing or even dissecting a live cat is very disturbing, many killers start this way.

ACK!

[Imran Siddiqui]

He said abuse, not just use. Fundamental difference between the two there.

Yeah, but he assumes that testing on animals is abuse. What else could he mean? I mean how has he abused animals? Killing a cat and dissecting it? In that case throw all animal researchers in jail because they do the same thing (they don't wait until the cat dies before researching on it).

[Gibsie]

I guess it's just personal opinion; cutting up cats as a hobby (fits the description) seems pretty abusive to me.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Doesn't seem like a 'hobby' to me. He was doing it for research purposes. Unless all research is simply a 'hobby'.

[Gibsie]

Obtaining research specimens through lying, killing and then cutting them up doesn't sound like the most brilliant of research to me. It sounds about as scientific as grave-robbing.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Which is the entire science of archeology .

[Gibsie]

Indiana Jones never killed a cat.

[Imran Siddiqui]

How do you know... he was named after a dog after all .

And he did kill an India tribe .

[Gibsie]

But they were evil.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
How do you know... he was named after a dog after all .

And he did kill an India tribe .

He wasn't named after a dog, he stole the dogs name.....

And any tribe that can rip your heart out of your chest by their fingers should be killed.



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[Imran Siddiqui]

But they were evil.

So you say

What makes you think Frist wasn't as hateful towards cats as Alexander's Horse is. Maybe he thought they were evil .

[Gibsie]

Kali worshippers = evil

Kitties = not evil

And besides, he just defeated them, he didn't wipe the thugs out. And Frist probably did hate the cats. There is no room for hatred in research (except for the work itself).

[Imran Siddiqui]

No room for hatred in research?!

That's all research is about! Hating the person that could get the research done faster .

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Apologizing should be irrelevant by your standards, Imran, because Byrd long-ago apologized for his Klan ties, which were token anyway. Hugo Black was a former Klansman, at least nominally, (as was just about every southern politicion around in the 30's and 40's, it was a powerful constituency, and his record within SCOTUS hardly suggests ol' Hugo hewed to the Klan's values.

I wasn't saying that I don't accept Byrd's apology. I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of accepting a Democrat's apology, but not a Republican' one.

Byrd is the sort of anachronism (like Helms) who should be long gone from the Senate and US politics. He's tolerated for one reason: since he brings home the pork and prevents WV from sinking to the economic level of, say, Haiti, he'll be reelected as long as he runs. That being the case, he has enough connections to grease things for other Senators, or stop them dead in their tracks.

[Guynemer]

Speaking as one of the most liberal American posters on 'Poly, and as someone concerned for the well-being of all animals (including cats, a species that I don't particularly like)...



Honestly, without more information, this is a complete nonissue. If he performed vivisections for ****s and giggles, that's another thing entirely, but I see no proof of that whatsoever.

This man has personally saved thousands of lives. Now, I don't particularly care for his politics (which, granted, may endanger more lives than he has ever saved). But I'm going to give him a pass on his anatomy experiments until something more incriminating comes along.

Good lord, no wonder everyone hates liberals...