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  • #46
    Imran and Shi. I agree. The cat issue is a non-starter. There is much to be learned from the dissection of cats. (I suggest we start with Tuberski )

    However, Frist's failure to vote until he was 36 and the conflict of interest arising from his $25 million investment in HCA gives me pause.

    If he were a member of the White House, its conflict-of-interest rules would force Frist to divest. If he were a member of the House, its conflict-of-interest rules would permit him to keep the investment, but he wouldn't be able to vote on any health-care issues. But under Senate rules, Frist can keep the investment and vote on health-care issues...as long as his vote is "for the good of the country."

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    • #47
      BTW...why do you guys keep ragging on Byrd because he used to be a member of the KKK. Ronald Reagan used to be a member of the Democratic Party. People change.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Zkribbler
        Imran and Shi. I agree. The cat issue is a non-starter. There is much to be learned from the dissection of cats. (I suggest we start with Tuberski )

        Why, you little $!#@^@%$#^



        ACK!
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #49
          Having been both teacher and student in medical schools I know how common this is. If you love your kitty and you live in a city with a medical school then do not ever, ever let miss kitty out of your sight in public.




          You've been warned now. What happens from this day forward is your responsibility.
          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Gibsie
            Kali worshippers = evil

            Kitties = not evil
            Then explain this:

            Kali is the Cat of the Day! Show us your special pet; it's free! Cat of the Day, Kali; April 29, 2001
            "We are living in the future, I'll tell you how I know, I read it in the paper, Fifteen years ago" - John Prine

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Static23


              Then explain this:

              http://catoftheday.com/archive/2001/April/29.html




              ACK!
              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Zkribbler
                BTW...why do you guys keep ragging on Byrd because he used to be a member of the KKK. Ronald Reagan used to be a member of the Democratic Party. People change.
                Although I might not agree with them on an issue or two, I don't think the Democratic Party is quite as bad as the KKK
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Dr Strangelove: Having been both teacher and student in medical schools I know how common this is. If you love your kitty and you live in a city with a medical school then do not ever, ever let miss kitty out of your sight in public.
                  If that's true then perhaps it explains the instinctive, visceral revulsion that I always feel on the rare occasions when I find myself in the presence of surgeons. Heaven help me if I ever need any kind of serious medical treatment.

                  Regarding Frist, here's what I want to know: how did he kill these cats? If they had remained unadopted at the animal shelter, they would have been euthanized humanely with barbituates. So is that how Frist killed them? Or did he drown them in the bathtub or strangle them or what?

                  Or did he vivisect them? In other words, dissect them alive? If that's what he did then I hope he gets his a$$ fried by every animal welfare organization in the country.
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                  • #54
                    Right on, Ann.
                    When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                    • #55
                      AnnC, the Humane Society and shelters like them, unlike the ASPCA, don't euthanize the animals. They will care for them until they die of natural causes. In order to adopt a pet from them, you must sign an agreement to care for the animal.

                      Unfortunately the article doesn't state which shelters Frist frequented.
                      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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                      • #56
                        Maybe we need to appoint a special prosecutor and spend 65 million in taxpayers money to find out.
                        When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Static23
                          Then explain this:

                          http://catoftheday.com/archive/2001/April/29.html
                          My statements were not mutually exclusive, I just didn't factor in for the possibility of a cat called Kali. Who may well be evil.

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                          • #58
                            However, Frist's failure to vote until he was 36 and the conflict of interest arising from his $25 million investment in HCA gives me pause.


                            Voting until 36 isn't that bad... when you consider the number of people who actually vote anyway.

                            The $25 million in HCA doesn't bother me too much either. I mean, it's his father's company and he has investments in it. Do you mean to tell me that anyone that owns stock in HMOs can't vote on health bills?
                            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              However, Frist's failure to vote until he was 36 and the conflict of interest arising from his $25 million investment in HCA gives me pause.


                              The $25 million in HCA doesn't bother me too much either. I mean, it's his father's company and he has investments in it. Do you mean to tell me that anyone that owns stock in HMOs can't vote on health bills?
                              Under IRS rules, he's a corporate insider (immediate relative) and may be one under SEC rules by several different criteria. In most business transactions, there would be a clear disclosure requirements, and if he was a judge or in the executive branch, he would be unable to act on matters which could affect HCA directly or indirectly (i.e. affecting competitors, market conditions, or significantly affecting the industry in general).

                              It doesn't mean he's "dirty", it does mean there's a very clear conflict of interest.
                              When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                              • #60
                                Re: Re: Bill Frist: Compassionate Vivisectionist

                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                What's the joke about Chinese resturaunts?
                                I don't know about Chinese restaurants, but did you hear the one about why there are no Chinese veterinarians? "Your Fluffy, he very sad, he no make it. He put to sleep," the vet says to the aggreived family while using a toothpick.
                                "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
                                —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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