Star Wars is not Sci Fi!

[Imran Siddiqui]

If someone in 1912 had written a book about how, in 1950 you had a society in which everyone was given a battery of Freudian psycho-annalysis test, and that the results of those test then determined your life (who you could marry, what jobs you could hold) then that is science fiction.

I don't see that as science fiction at all (unless you say it is because of the future). I simply see that as fiction.

Crime and Punishment is one of the great psychological books of all time. Psychology is a soft science.

[Firelad]

Originally posted by GePap
If someone in 1912 had written a book about how, in 1950 you had a society in which everyone was given a battery of Freudian psycho-annalysis test, and that the results of those test then determined your life (who you could marry, what jobs you could hold)

Hey, that could make a top SF story, novel, whatever... Even now. I mean, if you would write it now you wouldn't use psycho-analysis but something else (psychohistory perhaps ) but the concept is real neat.

With all respect, in my opinion some people here are trying to enforce quite ridiculous bounds on what SF is, and doing great injustice to some of the greatest SF ever written... Again, look at the Foundation trilogy - this was already made example of in this thread. Hey, there's even telepathy and stuff there...

My greatest wish would be to refer you to a certain article by Isaac Asimov on the subject, but unfortunately neither is my reference available right now nor is there much chance that any of you has access to it anyway (it's in one of his 80's magazine editorials methinks...)

Oh, and May the Force be with you
~Mark

PS. In my opinion SW is SF, just bad SF (Yes, there's even such a thing )... Good in some other respects...

[Az]

You're still here.

[Firelad]

Are you referring to me?

[Az]

yes.

[Arrian]

From several pages ago (I just read the whole thread):

(Still refusing to submit to pressure and read Weis/Hickman and the like)

I'm just starting to read Goodkind (3 books down, 4 to go - for some reason I can't remember the name of the series off-hand), which you mentioned, and I fail to see how it is in some way superior to Weiss/Hickman (at least the Deathsgate Cycle).

As for the main debate...

I'd say that Star Wars is more fantasy/adventure than Sci-Fi, but there are elements of Sci-Fi in there.

-Arrian

[monolith94]

Braveheart is certainly science fiction. To people living in the stone age...

[Firelad]

hmm, i wonder what you mean by those cute smilies...

[rah]

SW is sci-fi.
But the sub-catagory is Space Opera.
RAH

[Ming]

There is a distinct difference between SF and Fantasy. The "Science Fiction Writers of America" (SFWA) and the "World Science Fiction Convention" voted for Star Wars in many different SF categories for their awards.

The "World Fantasy Convention" doesn't classify Star Wars as Fantasy...

So, if the professional SF writers classify it as SF... and the official SF Fan Organization classify it as SF... And the official Fantasy Organization doesn't consider it Fantasy...

It's SCIENCE FICTION.

All the experts agree... But if some morons want to continue to look stupid... go ahead... Lord knows there is enough of that on these forums

[Tuberski]

It's really very simple, look at the spine of a book. At the top it will say fiction, non-fiction, fantasy, science fiction, etc, etc.....

If it says Science Fiction, then it is.

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