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  • Whats the difference between creation and evolution?

    I have took part in this discussion many times here.
    What I find confussing is where does GOD fall into this topic.
    I believe that GOD put the creatures here and they did evolve over time.

    Which side do I belong on?

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    You just aren't an extremist.

    If you believe in God then that's a sensible point of view.
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    We've got both kinds

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    • #3
      I think there is no god.

      Evolution is the truth.
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      • #4
        You are a theistic evolutionist.
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        • #5
          being a theistic evolutionist means you're under attack from both sides.
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          • #6
            Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the existence/nonexistence of God. Only Creationists who believe one must interpret the Bible literally have a problem with evolution, because it runs contrary to the Biblical account.

            There is nothing incongruous about believing in both evolution as fact and God.
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            • #7
              There is nothing incongruous about believing in both evolution as fact and God.
              yep. But you'd be believing in a false God.

              I've been accused of this myself on numerous occasions.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                being a theistic evolutionist means you're under attack from both sides.
                Stop being an agitator you

                No, only Creationists will attack you. Evolution does not deal with God.
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                • #9
                  No, only Creationists will attack you. Evolution does not deal with God.
                  Evolutionist scientist will scoff at you if you admit to believe that God directs the evolutionary proces.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                    Evolutionist scientist will scoff at you if you admit to believe that God directs the evolutionary proces.
                    Did he say that? Hm? Hm?
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                    • #11
                      Re: Whats the difference between creation and evolution?

                      Originally posted by Docfeelgood
                      I have took part in this discussion many times here.
                      What I find confussing is where does GOD fall into this topic.
                      I believe that GOD put the creatures here and they did evolve over time.

                      Which side do I belong on?
                      ...Which creatures?

                      If you think the first creatures were microbes, you're a theistic evolutionist.

                      If you think they were a whole range of well-developed organisms including fish, birds, reptiles and mammals, but they still underwent significant evolution afterwards, you're... um... something else.

                      And you'll get attacked from all sides.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Saint Marcus


                        Evolutionist scientist will scoff at you if you admit to believe that God directs the evolutionary proces.
                        I don't see why. There is no way of proving that an ominpotent, ominpresent God wouldn't be able to do such a thing.
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                        • #13
                          I don't see why. There is no way of proving that an ominpotent, ominpresent God wouldn't be able to do such a thing.
                          cause it's not scientific to assume there is. There is no indication that design is part of evolution, so why believe in a designer?
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                          • #14
                            Boris :
                            I think evolution means there are a bunch of failed attempts to make a species more fit to its environment (I may be wrong). In this meaning, an omniscient god cannot direct evolution, since there is no way he fails.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Saint Marcus
                              cause it's not scientific to assume there is. There is no indication that design is part of evolution, so why believe in a designer?
                              Because it fits into one's religious philosophy? If one can accept evolution as true, I don't the problem with believing it's God's plan if you want. There's no way to show it isn't, after all.

                              Spiffor:

                              I think evolution means there are a bunch of failed attempts to make a species more fit to its environment (I may be wrong). In this meaning, an omniscient god cannot direct evolution, since there is no way he fails.
                              This doesn't mean anything as to the intentions of an omnipotent God. After all, said God could have made the "failures" happen on purpose, for whatever reason. We can't comprehend the will of an omnipotent being, can we?

                              I'm not a theist, but I see no logical disconnect between accepting evolution and belief in God.
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