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  • Originally posted by Caligastia
    Wow! That bad huh!? Well I reckon Auckland's NPC team would beat them by about 20 points at this stage then.
    Caligastia is back in full shape, he has even started a "mine is longer than yours" contest with Havak.
    "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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    • Originally posted by Tamerlin


      Caligastia is back in full shape, he has even started a "mine is longer than yours" contest with Havak.
      At least we are talking rugby...
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • Originally posted by Caligastia


        At least we are talking rugby...
        Beware of the Moderator's Castigator (Encounter Level 14 Monster)... I suppose he is still asleep but he is angry and hungry when he wakes up.

        Imagine Finbar in the middle of the night, speaking while dreaming:
        "No, no... aaaargh!"

        He suddenly wakes up, cold sweat dripping on his forefront...
        "Australia? I should have think about it... FIRST".
        "I am gonna grind this usurper to dust...".


        Miss Finbar, talking in a half-sleep:
        "Come on Finbar, don't think about this no more, it's the third time you wake me up..."

        Finbar: "I am gonna grind them to dust... ALL...".
        "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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        • Originally posted by Tamerlin


          Beware of the Moderator's Castigator (Encounter Level 14 Monster)... I suppose he is still asleep but he is angry and hungry when he wakes up.

          Imagine Finbar in the middle of the night, speaking while dreaming:
          "No, no... aaaargh!"

          He suddenly wakes up, cold sweat dripping on his forefront...
          "Australia? I should have think about it... FIRST".
          "I am gonna grind this usurper to dust...".


          Miss Finbar, talking in a half-sleep:
          "Come on Finbar, don't think about this no more, it's the third time you wake me up..."

          Finbar: "I am gonna grind them to dust... ALL...".
          Whatever you're smoking, mon ami, I wouldn't mind some of it!
          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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          • Originally posted by finbar


            Whatever you're smoking, mon ami, I wouldn't mind some of it!




            I have finished it two weeks ago...
            "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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            • Caligastia is back in full shape, he has even started a "mine is longer than yours" contest with Havak.
              Interesting choice to quote Auckland though. He should have chosen a team that had won something recently (or rather something important) to make it a credible strike back on his part.

              I can assure you SH guys that you have no idea how thoroughly it ruined the reputation of Super 12 up here that the most successful coach in that tournaments history is Graham "clueless" Henry. he is even a laughing stock in Wales (and you have no idea quite how bad that is!?)

              If I dare be serious can we open a discussion about the Kiwi coaches up here and how they are affecting our game? Buck Shelford and Wayne Smith seem to be great guys but I am concerned at how they are turning great old English clubs into mini-ABs - and I don't mean flair and class but rather pushing the envelope of the laws of course.

              Oh and Tamerlin - I'm backing the Catalans as they can mess with Glaws QF draw. Long live the 'four fingers of blood'
              Last edited by Havak; January 15, 2003, 04:38.
              It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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              • Oooohh! Just for that I'm joining Cali. I'll be back to post a response ... ... ... just as soon as I find some ammo.

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                • You might not want to hold your breath waiting though.

                  [If I hadn't said it, finbar would've ]

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                  • It does sound a touch Finbar-ish all right.

                    How did I forget Gatland - he is at Wasps.

                    Interestingly the top three clubs last year all had and still have English coaches - telling perhaps? The only team in the top four now without an English head coach is Leeds and they have a Welshy in the job with an English assitant.
                    It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                    • Originally posted by Havak
                      If I dare be serious can we open a discussion about the Kiwi coaches up here and how they are affecting our game? Buck Shelford and Wayne Smith seem to be great guys but I am concerned at how they are turning great old English clubs into mini-ABs - and I don't mean flair and class but rather pushing the envelope of the laws of course.
                      I don't know much on this subject but it seems that the French teams trained by NZ coaches have the tendancy to evolve towards a standardized game, a copy of what is done in New Zealand without its internationals, a caricature of the SH and NZ game actually.

                      Oh and Tamerlin - I'm backing the Catalans as they can mess with Glaws QF draw. Long live the 'four fingers of blood'
                      Wouldn't you back any team against Gloucester?
                      "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • Originally posted by ravagon
                        You might not want to hold your breath waiting though.

                        [If I hadn't said it, finbar would've ]
                        It would've been something much pithier than that. If I could've been bothered.
                        " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                        "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                        • Originally posted by Tamerlin


                          I don't know much on this subject but it seems that the French teams trained by NZ coaches have the tendancy to evolve towards a standardized game, a copy of what is done in New Zealand without its internationals, a caricature of the SH and NZ game actually.
                          "I don't know much on this subject but I will proceed to give a detailed analysis of the impact of NZ coaches on French rugby".

                          Wouldn't you back any team against Gloucester?
                          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                          • Originally posted by Havak
                            If I dare be serious can we open a discussion about the Kiwi coaches up here and how they are affecting our game? Buck Shelford and Wayne Smith seem to be great guys but I am concerned at how they are turning great old English clubs into mini-ABs - and I don't mean flair and class but rather pushing the envelope of the laws of course.
                            I wish I knew enough about the matter to express an opinion. The hoary old chestnut of a tag aside - do the Kiwi coaches operate with a common discernible pattern? Do they try to recreate an AB - or SH, call it what you like - style?

                            Oh and Tamerlin - I'm backing the Catalans as they can mess with Glaws QF draw. Long live the 'four fingers of blood'
                            Who are the Catalans?
                            " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                            "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                            • Originally posted by finbar
                              Who are the Catalans?
                              The name of the people coming from the "Catalogne" which is the area where you can find Perpignan, Collioure, Banyuls... and thus the Union Sportive des Arlequins de Perpignan.
                              "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • a caricature of the SH and NZ game actually.
                                That’s actually a very interesting description. You may have a point.

                                Wouldn't you back any team against Gloucester?
                                Pretty much any side yes – except Bath maybe.

                                Do they try to recreate an AB - or SH, call it what you like - style?
                                In my opinion they do in some ways yes. You might disagree with some of these but I find that Wasps, Saints and Saracens now all operate with back lines that are pretty much always technically offside, sometimes blatantly so. The speed with which players return to their feet is noticeably slower than with their UK coached counterparts and results in a lot of accidental drifting through play – classic Kiwi? Hand on the floor seems to be a ubitiquous feature of play rather than the dark contingency art it should be. And the crucial give away? Whenever the opposition wins set piece ball one of them falls over as if his leg just gave way.

                                Just the impressions I get. English coached teams are of course never guilty of any of the above!

                                The flag of that region by the way is four red stripes on a yellow background – four fingers of blood. The area has a bloody history to say the least and hopped between being Spanish and French several times – but Tamerlin will know more about this?
                                It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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