LoTR: The Two Towers

[Saint Marcus]

of course you could reason your way out of that issue, but most people who saw it did believe the elves came from Rivendell.

of course, they shouldn't have put the elves in Helm's Deep at all. Holiwood sucks

[MarkG]

elves are cool. we should have more elves in all scenes in a any possible way

[November Adam]

guess they needed skilled archers for the battle, not too many from Rohan I guess.

[Kc7mxo]

In the book there were plenty of rohirrim at helms deep, inclouding eomer. It was Erkenbrand (a major rohirrim lord who'd gone off to fight the orcs with his own troops) gandalf went to find, and brought back.

I just don't understand so many of the changes they made. I don't mind most of them, but I just don't see why they changed them.

[Robert]

They changed it because in a movie you can't keep on introducing new characters. Why introduce eomer AND Erkenbrand, if one person could do both jobs.

That way it's possible for the general watcher to understand the story.

[Timexwatch]

Call me a dork, but I thought that Helm's Deep was the worst instance of Midevil siege warfare that I've ever seen. I was thinking "Didn't they learn anything from Crecy and Agincourt?". And Gandalf's charge? I was hoping that they'd all be skewed for doing something that stupid.

On a more black note, was my theater the only one that had someone shout "Jihad" when the orc sapper ran in with the torch to detonate the breaching charges?

[TheStinger]

I think he fact that the incosticiencies with the book that are being shown are really quite small show what a good job Peter Jackson has done.

I have read all the books several times and I thought it was great

[CyberGnu]

Timex, eh, what other movies show medieval siege warfare? I can't think of any at the top of my head...

Granted, I wondered what the masons were smoking when they decided to put a huge storm drain in the middle of the wall!!!!

[Hurricane]

With its wings it could well have flown back up again as soon as it recovered from the unexpected fall.

Originally posted by Saint Marcus


Balrogs can't fly.

Goddammit! If they have wings, they can fly!

[Felch]

Fire and darkness are not hampered by gravity. Balrogs can fly.

[TheStinger]

Gandalf even mentioned Morgorth when fighting the Balrog thatwas good

[aahz_capone]

Oh, dear, the Balrog-flying discusion again...

If you read your Tolkein, it said that the balrog had "wings of shadow" in which "wings" could be taken taken literally or as a metaphore. The movie solved this be having only the skelton of wings and the rest darkeness. Whether the damned thing flys or not doesn't matter as it was falling backwards and Gandalf was smacking it about too.

Even if it could right itself and fly, a thing that big would need a load of running space to lift off and once falling would never be able to slow down enough to stop falling, let alone rise.

As for inconsistencies with the book the only one I really wondered at was that Faramir let Frodo go at Oligarth (sp). In the book he was released before the battle.

And yeah, that morgoth mention was cool.

[FrustratedPoet]

Osgiliath

Os. Gil. I. Ath.

Osg. Ili. Ath.

If we're gonna be geeky about this thing we may as well spell the names right.

[aahz_capone]

sorry. but remembering over 400 made up words from tolkein is sometimes kinda hard seeing as I have no book around here to look it up. Some are more important than others too.

[Bereta_Eder]

Dont you think the dwarf was a bit underplayed in battle sequences?
The elf was great and Aragorn was ok but the dwarf with his mighty axe, they didnt quite make him to deliver.

Although he payed off in being funny