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- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
I saw it on Tuesday. I work at a movie theatre, so I got to see it early! Woo! I loved it, except it needed to be an hour longer. I know that sounds like crazy talk, but there was too much stimulus thrown at me at once.
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They can't cater to LOTR geeks, Mark . There has to be something for the rest of the people, and people like big, nasty-ass battles. It's a fact .
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
A Sixology doesn't nearly have the box-office power of a Trilogy. Most people would have written off 5 and 6 by the time it actually got to the movies.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
A Sixology doesn't nearly have the box-office power of a Trilogy. Most people would have written off 5 and 6 by the time it actually got to the movies.
Imran: I said I read the books so it wasn't a big problem for me. I was speaking for my non-Tolkinite friends, who haven't read the books. They didn't understand some parts of the movie, simply because the story rushed through them.
examples? (I'm doing this out of the top of my head, I may be mistaken in some cases).
the elvish rope around gollum's neck. it was mentioned in the Extended version of the Fellowship, but not in the regular version. So people wondered where the hell Sam got elvish rope from.
ditto with Frodo knowing Smeagol's name. Gandalf mentioned this in the EE of the Fellowship, but not in the regular version I believe. So people wondered how on earth Frodo knew Smeagol's name.
Also not explained is Sam's hostility towards Gollum.
How Elves got to Helm's deep from Rivendell. Why Haldir said the elvish company came from Rivendell (when he himself was from Lothlorien). And how come Saruman didn't notice the elvish company when they went through the gap of Rohan from Rivendell. Though people who read the books are even more baffeled about this one.
Wild men. Shown and mentioned briefly. Hardly explained.
Battle for Osgiliat (sp), shown way to briefly. Also, the relationship between Gondor and Rohan isn't clearly explained.
A lot more things. Plus, there were a number of errors in the movie in regards to what's in the books (for one, aren't the Southerns supposed to be black?).
The general public loved the battle scenes, but felt a bit kept in the dark about various things in the movie. The fans also loved the battle scenes, but felt a bit unsatisfied because of the many omitions in and changes to the story.
Personally...I liked the first movie better than the second. Though the Extended Edition of the Two Towers may change all that.
I understand that... but no one (but geeks) are going to go see a 4 hour movie that explains everything. There will be some holes.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Just saw the movie this evening. Definitely better than the first. No too-short cuts, etc. and the CGI wasn't cheesy like in parts of the first.
The story was necessarily a little more jumbled. Like others, I don't know what the elves were doing at Helm's Deep, but that's a small sin I guess. Faramir's change didn't make sense to me either.
I thought the Arwen stuff was actually done pretty well and adds to the story.
I really loved the ruins of the old city. Amazingly done. We will be seeing more of that in the third movie. Looking forward to it.
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I will have to see this the week after christmas. Maybe I'll see it on the 26th though.
I kind of wish the movies were rated R and had more gore though . I'm a sicko I know. But the first movie had a beheading which I thought was shocking for a pg-13 movie. But a beheading with no blood seems kind of cheesy. Hmmm
I neglected to read the books, even though I'm an avid fantasy reader. I can't help but think, after conferring with friends who have read the series, that I am better off when watching the movies because of it. Therefore, I will say that this series has been the best set of movies I have ever seen. I feel this is saying alot, considering it had to go against the Omen and Evil Dead series.
Originally posted by Saint Marcus
How Elves got to Helm's deep from Rivendell. Why Haldir said the elvish company came from Rivendell (when he himself was from Lothlorien). And how come Saruman didn't notice the elvish company when they went through the gap of Rohan from Rivendell. Though people who read the books are even more baffeled about this one.
I think Haldir said they came "with word from Rivendell" or something like that. In my mind, they was sent by Rivendell, but left from Lorien straight south to Helm's Deep. Makes much more sense that way
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