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  • #46
    Hence the reason I'll be voting Liberal Democrat.

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    • #47
      The UK has no proper right-wing though. That's why we see the BNP filling the void.
      www.my-piano.blogspot

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      • #48
        4 council seats in the midlands hardly counts as 'filling the void'.

        your assesment is wrong, labour is centre-left, and certainly was more towards the centre when it came to power in '97. the tories though are right wing, not centrist, if they were in centre of british politics (which by definition is where most people are) then they would have won the last election! their main problem is that whilst under major they were centre-right, they're now just right. the only way they'll ever get back in to power is to have someone like ken clarke drag them kicking and screaming back into the centre.
        "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

        "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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        • #49
          If the Tories move left, they'll lose votes. The left is saturated. They just need to have decent policies and advertise them in the correct way (ie, before the Daily Mail).
          www.my-piano.blogspot

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          • #50
            Oh good god. The Tories and Labour are both way too right wing for me to feel comfortable with either of them being in power.

            Raise taxes!! Make stuff public again, especially transport.
            Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
            Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
            We've got both kinds

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            • #51
              www.my-piano.blogspot

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              • #52
                the tories don't need to become left-wing, but they do need to re-capture the centre ground from labour, the limits of a party that was 'right' rather than 'centre-right' were shown very clearly in 2001.
                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                • #53
                  Suggest policies.
                  www.my-piano.blogspot

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                  • #54
                    Plausible policies to reform public services without at the same time halving their funding
                    Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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                    • #55
                      The Tories, if they want to be taken seriously, need to be right-liberal rather than right-authoritarian. The only way they'll lose they 'nasty party' image.

                      Still wouldn't vote for them but I wouldn't hate them as much.

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                      • #56
                        They need to be extreme left liberal then I'd vote for them.
                        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                        We've got both kinds

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                        • #57
                          I agree, they are both right-wing in my eyes. There is no way you could define Labour policy as left wing, it is Thatcherism continued...
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #58
                            Is it bollocks! It's centre-left. Tories are centre. BNP are right-wing. The Tories need to become centre-right.
                            www.my-piano.blogspot

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                            • #59
                              Yeah, but these are 'your' definitions
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #60
                                Absolutely.

                                Tories are authoritarian right to liberal center right mix (hence all the infighting), BNP are violent racist fascist thugs whose extreme authoritarian policies are born out of fear and cowardice, Labour leadership are center to center right, lib dems are center to center left liberals.
                                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                                We've got both kinds

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