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  • #61
    I thought it was a tremendous disappointment. Here's why:

    1.) The premise was weak. Shinzon was sent to Remus because they were worried about him getting discovered and starting a war??? Lame. First, the Romulans wouldn't give a rats arse, because the Federation is too sissyfied to declare war on anyone. Hell, they're afraid to even "raise shields" in the event that it might upset some delicate diplomatic balance. Second, if he was REALLY that much of a risk, they would have just zapped him with a disruptor and swept up the mess.

    2.) Somehow, the Enterprise sensors (which seem to malfunction if Picard so much as orders too much sugar on his Earl Grey from the replicator) manage to detect the "positronic signature" of B-4 from a few light years away. Riiiight. So, every other time the Enterprise has been unable to lock on to Data for the purposes of transporting him out of a dangerous situation, they haven't been able to detect his "positronic signature" when they're desperately looking for him, and they're going to find a broken prototype of him BY ACCIDENT??? Gay.

    3.) The Romulans (notoriously treacherous, hated enemies of the Federation, etc., etc.) suddenly have new government (which the Federation brass admits they suspect is a military coup), and they actually send a lone starship into enemy territory to meet the new guy? Why not arrange a meeting at the border of the Neutral Zone? Why risk sending the flagship into an obviously dangerous situation when, if the intent of the Romulans was really peace, they would more than understand the need to meet at a more neutral location.

    4.) The Troi "mind rape" scene was stupid. Weaker still was the premise that she could mentally reach out, find her attacker in space, and point Worf to where he should fire the photon torpedoes. Hell, Troi's spent 15 years doing nothing but stating the obvious to the Captain ("I sense a lot of aggression from the Klingons.."), and all of a sudden, she's Professor X and can track down telepaths in space and provide targeting coordinates. How about we just admit that her character has been essentially useless for the duration of the TV series and all the movies, and stop making plot holes to stuff her in?


    5.) The Enterprise has no shields and limited weapons at the end, and Picard decides to ram the Scimitar, even though the Scimitar still has shields and weapons. So, instead of breaking up on the Scimitar's shields, or getting blown into dust by their disruptors, the ship essentially sits there and allows the Enterprise to hit it. The Enterprise is left still relatively intact.

    6.) Riker gets into a fight with the Reman who "violated" his wife, and has all the vengeful anger of a wet sock. Honestly, I thought he was supposed to be the "tough" guy, and I expected him to go off in a blind rage. Instead, he mostly fumbles around like a ******.

    7.) They can only beam one guy over to the Scimitar. They send the captain (not the more obvious choice of Worf, who is the security officer, the better fighter, and physically more imposing than anyone else on the ship). The transporters apparently "short out" after Geordi (why the hell isn't he in engineering while the ship is getting pounded?) sends him over. However, Data has a little emergency transporter doodad that works just fine to send Picard back to Enterprise. Why not replicate a few dozen of those things and send an armed away team over to the Scimitar with them?

    8.) They decide to kill of a major character, and they do it so cheaply it disgusts me. When Spock died in "Wrath of Khan," there was genuine remorse and a real sense of loss, because the plot vehicle for his "ressurection" wasn't revealed until the next movie. You walked out of Star Trek II saying to yourself "Holy $hit... they killed Spock.." In "Nemesis," they deliberately establish another version of the character for Spiner to play in a future movie, complete with a "memory download" that looks like it might kick in after B-4 has more time to assimilate the data (no pun intended). Not only that, but the "wake" or memorial service (if you could call it that) that the bridge crew has for their lost comrade was shallow and weak and had all the emotion of pile of warm dog crap. I actually got choked up when Kirk eulogized Spock in ST:2. I wanted to barf after seeing the treatment Data got.

    There were several other glaring plot holes (the dune buggy scene pretty much craps all over the prime directive, the Romulans getting overthrown by a Reman with one good starship is difficult to fathom, and the conveniently placed communications blackout at the final scene of the movie was hard to swallow), but I'll stop there and list a few things I DID like about the movie:

    1.) Wil Wheaton had a non-speaking role. Thank God. I started to get hives just seeing him at the table with the crew at the Riker-Troi wedding.

    2.) Riker gets promoted. About damned time. The fact that he was given a field promotion to Captain earlier in the series, then busted back down to Commander when Picard came back was stupid. Now they just need to resolve the problem of having a Commander (Worf) as a tactical officer.

    3.) I'm actually GLAD they killed Data (I just wish they had done it a little differently), because they weren't doing a very good job explaining why the artificial life form was getting crows feet, a middle-aged spread, and a sagging jawline.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by aahz_capone
      Star Trek 14 will take a total of 7 hours and 18 minutes involving all the crews and ships and then The One Ring is found and the Force helps Neo reach Super Saiyan level 4 and Sauron and the Borg Queen give birth to Judge Dredd's evil rival...



      sorry... I get carried away...
      Infograme: n: a message received and understood that produces certain anger, wrath, and scorn in its recipient. (Don't believe me? Look up 'info' and 'grame' at dictionary.com.)

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      • #63
        Damn it, worf should stay being an ambasador! that's at least the same level as commodor and we know it's above captain. If he should leave the fereration diplomatic corps go back into starfleet it should be as captain. At least as ambasador he might get his own ship for special missions and a DS9 film will make more sence.

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        • #64
          I'd like to see Worf take command of the Defiant again, and do a movie about some more clandestine Federation missions... a la "Mission Impossible" or something along those lines.
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          • #65
            The thing that really bugged me is that there really wasn't a logical reason for Shinzon to hate the Federation. It was the Romulans who tortured him. Shouldn't he have spent his energy avenging himself upon the Romulans? Why bother with the Federation?
            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
              The thing that really bugged me is that there really wasn't a logical reason for Shinzon to hate the Federation. It was the Romulans who tortured him. Shouldn't he have spent his energy avenging himself upon the Romulans? Why bother with the Federation?
              Well put. Even his Reman allies had little reason to hate the Federation. Truthfully, if Shinzon had merely been after Picard for his "transfusion" (which, by the way, was an entirely unnecessary plot device), that would have made sense. But his desire to wipe out the population of Earth made no sense.

              Heck, he's a 20-something human male who'd never even seen a human female before... you'd think he'd want to keep a few of them around.
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              • #67
                wow people really ripping into star drek here.


                Basically it is just a sci-fi action film for me. I gave up on their plot devices making sense. We all seen how badly those went in the TNG series. The writers fudge everything to make their flimsy story work.

                I will see it tomorrow hopefully. If it has good action and excitment I will probably like it. I learned long ago not to depend on star trek for quality science fiction. Even Wrath of Khan was not about science fiction. It was just based in a space setting. But Genesis (a major plot device in ST 2 and 3) was not an example of good science fiction (I happen to think its impossible )

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dissident
                  wow people really ripping into star drek here.
                  star drek........

                  "Starrrrr Drrrrrrek!

                  Space, the final frontier...
                  These are the voyages of the starship, Boobyprize...
                  It's five-year mission: to sell t-shirts, toy phasers,
                  plastic communicators, and anything else we can think of...
                  To seek out new life, in old plots and complications...
                  To boldly go where everyone has gone before!

                  *whoooooooosssssssssssssh*
                  STARRRRRRRR DREK"
                  "People sit in chairs!" - Bobby Baccalieri

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                  • #69


                    So is Data KILLED or DESTRYOED?

                    Howya kill something that is not alive

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                    • #70
                      He may not be alive, but his love is.
                      "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                      Drake Tungsten
                      "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                      Albert Speer

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                      • #71
                        shatter that platic freak into a million pieces. Not even Geordi can put him back together. Maybe he will join Tasha Yar in the afterlife and make hot android love to her.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Dissident
                          shatter that platic freak into a million pieces. Not even Geordi can put him back together. Maybe he will join Tasha Yar in the afterlife and make hot android love to her.
                          With all the goofy altered space-time continuum plots that the Trek writers like to fart out, that's not an unlikely scenario...
                          Infograme: n: a message received and understood that produces certain anger, wrath, and scorn in its recipient. (Don't believe me? Look up 'info' and 'grame' at dictionary.com.)

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                          • #73
                            You big meanie, Dissident!
                            "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                            "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by monolith94
                              He may not be alive, but his love is.
                              Oh give Spielberg a break. A.I. was a much better movie than Nemesis.
                              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


                                Oh give Spielberg a break. A.I. was a much better movie than Nemesis.
                                That's sort of an apples-to-oranges comparison. A.I. was a very different sort of movie than Nemesis.

                                I didn't bother to see AI in the theater... I did watch it on DVD, and didn't really find it all that compelling; not to mention that my wife fell asleep in the middle of it.
                                Infograme: n: a message received and understood that produces certain anger, wrath, and scorn in its recipient. (Don't believe me? Look up 'info' and 'grame' at dictionary.com.)

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