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  • #16
    Everyone:

    OK, I watched the movie and, briefly, here's what I thought:

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    1. The opening scene in the Romulan Star Empire Senate was eerie, to say the least. To see all those senators basically being turned into some sort of "stone" by that bio-genetic weapon and then shattering into pieces.

    On a related note, I expected the Senate to be grander in scale and number of senators. I mean, c'mon! This is the Senate of a starfaring empire! There should be more than 20 senators present, IMHO. Yeah, I know it's "only" the Romulans who would be represented in such a body (since the relationship is like Imperial Rome; the real power lies with the Praetor, and only Romulans would be represented in the Senate, and not any of their enslaved and/or subject races).

    2. I did enjoy the interplay between Cap. Jean-Luc Picard and Shinzon Remus, although I did think that the former went a little overboard in trying to "convert" the latter to the "light," so to speak. Heck, if I'd been Shinzon and listening to that pap (especially towards the end of the prattling), I'd probably think the Federation was even more fairy-like than before.

    The way Shinzon died was somewhat torturous. Nothing quite like Khan, though. His death scene is still tops, IMHO, with Spock a close second (hell, tied for first!).

    3. The ship battles were cool, especially when the E-E rammed the Scimitar (56 photon torpedo tubes and 26 phaser banks ... talk about freaking firepower!). Heh. I found it fascinating how quickly the E-E was carved up (even w/the assistance of two Romulan warbirds on her side) by the Scimitar — it took only one blow by the Scimitar to knock the shielded E-E's warp drive offline. Those helpful warbirds got socked pretty bad, too, and at least one was blown apart.

    That said, I was hoping for more fleet action, so to speak. But the movie was logical in why there wasn't fleet action (a perfect cloak, it seems). Plus it seems that Shinzon made an alliance with rebellious Romulan military leaders, and once this alliance broke down (hence the two helpful warbirds for the E-E), Shinzon could no longer command the Romulan Star Empire's fleets as praetor.

    4. I thought the story was rushed at the end. Too little time was spent on Data's death, and the subsequent rise of B-4 as a potential replacement. We never did get to see Riker's new command, the USS Titan (I hope it's at least a Galaxy-class ship, and maybe even another Sovereign-class ship). The spacedock shots of the E-E being repaired in Earth orbit (above Italy and Sicily, specifically) were neat.

    5. I thought the story was a bit rushed at the beginning. Some in-movie dialogue is all we get to explain Shinzon's rise to power among the Romulan-enslaved Remans. We never fully learn just how the enslaved sister planet to Romulus managed to rise to such prominence so quickly (to be fair, it sounded like the Remans made for excellent shock troops [cannon fodder] during the war against the Dominion, and that Shinzon himself was a very good warbird captain, having won a dozen battles against Dominion forces).

    6. Great to see the cameo of Guinan at the wedding of Troi and Riker. I didn't see Wesley, though.

    7. It appears that Riker is now Mr. Troi. Apparently the female surname is used after marriage on Betazed ... least that was the impression I got from a bit of movie dialogue between Picard and Riker.

    That's about all I can think of for now — oh, wait: The movie theater I watched "Nemesis" in was having occasional audio difficulties during parts of the film (and before). You'd go from having booming surround sound (DTS) to having only the front speakers working to having no sound (thankfully, that happened only during one of the previews). I much preferred DTS, thank you, and it stayed there for the most part. But, boy, you could tell when it wasn't in DTS ...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Gatekeeper
      Everyone:

      OK, I watched the movie and, briefly, here's what I thought:

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      Whatever he said.
      So is it worth it?
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      • #18
        Tassadar:

        Hmm ... yes, it's worth watching. But not on opening night, if you don't feel like it.

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        • #19
          My review and SPOILERS
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          The movie is a blatant rip off of Star Trek 2. The enemy, the final battle, the weapon, etc... Nevertheless, that's a good one to rip off.

          Things I liked -
          Brent Spiner is great once again in this movie. The 4 in B4 no doubt stands for 4-year old and it's pretty funny. Why? Why?
          The enemy ship is awesome.
          The final battle is pretty good.
          Shinzon is a pretty good enemy if you can disregard how one sided he is. He has his purpose and nothing can change that. He ends up looking pretty creepy, too.

          Things I didn't like -
          Disregard for the Star Trek world is running rampant. Does no one remember who Lor was? They could have at least mentioned him. They act like B4 is Data's only brother. Also, I know I saw Data get emotions in Generations. I don't recall them ever writing why they're gone again.
          The psychic crap with Diana Troi is really stupid. It seems like it was only added in because the writers couldn't think of any other way to get past the cloaking device.
          The movie was very predictable.

          All that said, the movie was ok. It's probably a good rental IMO. If you're gonna go see a movie, go see Equilibrium instead.

          Gatekeeper - Wesley is at the wedding, he's next to his mom at the table.
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          • #20
            Was it at least better than Insurrection? That one was really lame IMHO.
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            • #21
              BustaMike:

              It's sad that I missed Wesley, considering how "adorable" his mother is. Huh. I must have been distracted by something, because I saw Guinan ...

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              Jules:

              I think it's better than Insurrection, but not by terribly much. Let's put it this way: NEM is no FC.

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              • #22
                doh! I shouldn't have read the spoiler part.

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                • #23
                  Yeah, same here.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BustaMike

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                    Gatekeeper - Wesley is at the wedding, he's next to his mom at the table.
                    In a non-speaking role I hope...
                    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BustaMike
                      My review and SPOILERS
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                      Whatever else he said.
                      Well....is it worth it?

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                      • #26
                        *yawn*

                        I don't listen to "professional" movie critics for the simple statement..."Who wants to grow-up to be a movie critic?".....movie critics are nothing more than failed jouranlists who couldn't get a better job.

                        Anyway, I have NOT seen the movie yet but I did read the SPOILER posts (I don't plan on seeing the movie).

                        From what it sounds, I find it rather refreshing. The whole Startrek:TNG doesn't enlighten the viewers on the Romulans. All we know is that Romulus and Remus are "sister" planets with the Romulans as being cousins as cousins to the Vulcans. I find it rather interesting that the writers took the "Remus" planet and explored THEIR history for the viewers.

                        I don't like the fact that they clone Picard cause, quite frankly, Jean-Luc is the MAN.

                        Anyway, just had to get this offa my chest.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Gatekeeper
                          Yeah, I know it's "only" the Romulans who would be represented in such a body (since the relationship is like Imperial Rome; the real power lies with the Praetor, and only Romulans would be represented in the Senate, and not any of their enslaved and/or subject races).
                          What? A praetor was pretty big in the Roman Empire, but he's not the big cheese.
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                          • #28
                            well I read the spoiler parts even though I plan on seeing it next week.

                            No biggie I wasn't expecting that suprise near the end. Of course I know the good guys win.

                            In any case it actually still looks good. But perhaps not as good as I hoped. So I won't go in with too high of expectations.

                            It's got dunebuggies so it has to be good

                            About wesley, I thought he was annoying. But the writers don't seem to care about explaining his presence. He is supposed to be the traveller. And I though the traveller was a pretty good job . I wanted it. I wanted to see how that plot line played out. Supposedly they did shoot more footage with him in it. But they had to cut many scenes. I hope they are in the DVD as cut scenes.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Skanky Burns
                              You could watch all the aliens signing the document in "real time", then follow them back to their seats. Then follow the next alien up to sign...

                              It has all the hallmarks of a great movie idea!
                              Well the idea was that everyone was allied but at the bottom everybody conspires to each other.

                              Why always "a great enemy -> tension -> battle with crashes -> end" ? Is quite repetitive like (Dragon Ball movies)
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                              • #30
                                UR:

                                I'm talking about the Romulan Praetor, which is apparently the "big cheese" in the Romulan Star Empire, although the viewer and reader hardly ever hears of him, at least since TOS. However, the Romulan military, the Tal Shiar and even some of the senators apparently have significant platforms of power in the RSE.

                                (You'd think the Tal Shiar would still be decimated after that debacle against the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant.)

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