Review: 'Trek: Nemesis' its own worst enemy

[Lonestar]

Saw the movie, and well.....


Liked it. Quite a bit. The battle scene was perhaps the most riveting in the entire Franchise. (I lasted a good 30mins too). This was not easy to do, as there were only 4 ships.

Distracted by the "squishing" of the Reman uniforms, but otherwise thought the Nosferatu/Frog look was good.

Also liked the references to "The War."

Don't like Janeway being kicked up to Admiral. I would have drummed her ass out of Starfleet.

[XarXo]

Oh great, another Happy-Shinny Movie of special effects, yep? Well, my opnion in ythis thread start to be quite repetitive . In the other hand I'm sure that see Jean Luc Picard again will be a great thing , he is at the least the best capitain that I saw in Star Trek series.

[monkspider]

You silly Trekkies.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Lonestar
The battle scene was perhaps the most riveting in the entire Franchise. (I lasted a good 30mins too).

30 minutes? :drools:

[Kepler]

Saw it today. Briefly:

1) The best of the TNG group, and a solid B. (The only A's in the franchise being II and VI).

2) I haven't followed things that closely, but why no mention of Data's evil twin when evaluating B4, and why not even a peep about the previous Troy-Worf relationship? Maybe this has something to do with the Janeway series, which I have refused to watch ever since seeing a couple first year episodes (gak!).

3) The "here it comes, another profound message!" message is trite and repeated endlessly. This is a movie that actually (I can't believe I'm saying this) needed less character development and more explosions.

4) Did Troy get a breast reduction?

5) Beverly's looking hotter the older she gets. Or I'm getting older the older she gets. I dunno. I had the same problem with Kim Bassinger early in 8 Mile.

6) Saw the "plot twist" finale from an hour away. The writers weren't trying very hard on this one.

7) Visually very nice, especially the interior ship scenes. "Defensive pattern Kirk Epsilon" was a nice passing touch.

8) JLP is still the coolest captain in the Trek series, and now there's a decent movie with him in it.

Worth seeing once in the theatre, and once during the occasional Trek marathon on SciFi or whatever.

[Provost Harrison]

Well I am not sure when it is out here...I don't think it is for a while yet...

[Dr Strangelove]

I just saw it, and I wasn't impressed. Since so many here haven't seen it I won't go into why.

[jdd2007]

considering all the bad press, i was very surprised to see a local review give it a 'classic' rating...

i wouldnt see it no matter how good it is, though...

[aahz_capone]

I haven't seen it yet, comes out in feb in Holland.

Anyway, having read the spoilers, I think I'll enjoy it. I think it's about time we learned more about romulans. during the TNG and DS9 romulan episodes I always plaid special attention to the government structure and stuff. Bunch of Nazis really.

It's ABOUT TIME Riker got his own ship, and I like the name USS Titan. This thing sounds BIG and BAD. It had better be at least sovereign if not better. It sound like a massive howitzer on wheels... er... warp coils...something...

I don't like how in (almost) every damned movie they rip the enterprise to pieces. I mean The E-A stank on ice, seeing as it's predecesor survived 5 years in total crap and the E-A can't handle one damned klingon torpedo. ok, the E-D was Troi's fault, but in Insurrection the E-E (which is SUPPOSED to be the baddest ship in the fleet, eat borg for breakfast and make the dominion wee their pants) got klobberd. Why is it that it sucks as a battle ship AGIAN? In the series the federation has always been some of the most advanced in military tech, klingons going more for soviet style clobbering and the romulans sneaky bastards.


I also find it disapointing that the bridges are always so dark nowadays (which is highly unrealistic of a spaceship) and that they negelect to mention fun tidbits like Lor. Apparently they don't want movies to confuse the non-trekkies. pah!

[Provost Harrison]

Well if I was the Federation I would use bigger and badder ships than they have with much more powerful and nasty weapons...let's face it, looking at their technology, they could have something far better...I'd build deathstars

[Starchild]

Deathstars, bah. The defiance of the Federation against the Borg is shortlived. The Borg are simply a superior society.

Honestly though, if the Borg, instead of sending one single cube (and still managing to kick Fed arse) sent a fleet of hundreds of cubes, what could the Federation do to stop them?

[Provost Harrison]

Bugger all, but it would kill the franchise

Anyway, didn't Janeway effectively cripple the Borg in the end in Voyager. I get after the chain reaction they set off in the subspace tunnels, destroying their entire network, and killing their queen, that they are effectively crippled and will take a long time to redevelop, if they ever can. So are the Borg now a non-entity?

[Gatekeeper]

The Borg Collective had five transwarp hubs. Of those, Voyager and its crew managed to destroy only *one.* So that means the Borg still have four transwarp hubs. Hopefully, however, the hub that was destroyed contained most of the transwarp conduits that led into the Alpha and Beta Quadrants ...

Future Janeway also managed to poison at least part of the Borg Collective with that nanovirus of hers, so the Collective undoubtably lost hundreds of millions of drones (and the tactical cubes, pyramids, spheres and fusion cubes they controlled) before containing the damage.

The Queens, insofar as I can tell, are merely "personifications" of the Collective, and can be replaced at will (or there might even be multiple Queens, like a beehive or an ant colony). So the loss of the Borg Queen is probably the least serious of the damage inflicted in VOY's series finale, "Endgame."

So the Borg are still around and are a significant threat, IMHO, but probably won't be able to really menace the AQ and BQ again for many years. Although when they do finally recover ...

... the Federation had better watch out, 'cause I think the Borg would really invade with hundreds, if not thousands, of ships this time around. After all, humanity is too strong (apparently) to safely assimilate, so they must be destroyed instead. Humanity is too much of a threat to Borg to leave untouched in the long run.

Gatekeeper

[Sprayber]

I thought they killed the queen in First Contact? How many times do they kill the queen before she dies.

[Starchild]

The Queen's just the Will of the Collective made flesh (at least that's the impression I got). She's the ultimate processing unit, the final check on what the Borg think and do. Most likely just exists as part of the Collective's OS (MS-Borg!) and is assembled when need be.