Poll: Is Georgias new "death warrant" on abortions a good idea?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


You're not quite correct. In the majority opinion of Roe v. Wade the court argued that there was a balance between the rights of the mother and "the interests of the state" in securing the wellfare of the developing child. They reasoned that early in pregnancy this interest was not as "compelling" as it was later in the preganacy and so the rights of the mother outweighed those of the fetus. There was no denial of the humanity of the fetus at all.

I think we say the same thing. It is my understanding tho' that SCOTUS decided to avoid the controversial issue of determining if or when a fetus is human and for arguement sake assume it was human and then the rest of the ruling follows as you and Ned suggest. I don't think there has ever been a legal interpretation of when/if a fetus is human other than if you apply this assumption as a precedent.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by obiwan18
"destined to be a human being"
- Ogie Oglethorpe

Right to lifers say that it IS a human being. Don't pick on straw men.

"Is the life of the innocent child any less precious in these circumstances?"
- Ogie Oglethorpe

You seem to say that it is. Why should an INNOCENT CHILD die for the sins of their father?

"If the underpinnings of this stance are so inviolate as the right to human life, why make exception?"
Ogie Oglethorpe

NO exception warranted for rape or incest. Only for a serious risk to the life of the mother.

You at least are consistent. Although even in the last statement you make exception "Only for a serious risk to the life of the mother." Given an either or situation, life of the mother, or life of child, you would allow abortion?

What makes the life of the child less important than that of the mother to make the choice favoring the mother in this situation?

Point is there are lots of strawman arguements both sides of the issue.

[SlowwHand]

Some of the posters here are doing what I thought impossible.
Make me think abortion might not have been such a bad idea.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

I'm sure you will be all in favor of a regional policy starting with Filthadelphia.

(or are you looking at a retroactive policy?)

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by obiwan18
"(having an abortion is safer than having a baby), "

Dead wrong here Che- abortion increases both the suicide rate of women, breast cancer rate of women as well as the occasional death due to abortion complications.

A higher percentage of women die from carrying a child to term than die from having an abortion. Furthermore, there are other physical risks to the woman as well. Also, if we're bringing in emotional factors, post partum depression, which effects a significant number of women, is far more likely to occur in a women who has carried a child to term rather than one who has had an abortion. And the breast cancer link hasn't been conclusively proven.

Finally, if you people wouldn't go around telling women they were killing their babies, they wouldn't be getting depressed when having an abortion. You didn't see the same results in the Soviet Block, where abortion was free and legal and available on demand, and Christians weren't around in large enough numbers to mess with their heads.

Confine yourself to moral arguments, because the science is against you.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
You didn't see the same results in the Soviet Block, where abortion was free and legal and available on demand, and Christians weren't around in large enough numbers to mess with their heads.

Where are the gulags when you need them, eh?

[chequita guevara]

Exactly.

[Dinner]

This is nothing more then an attention ploy being used by a certain Politician from Georia. He, and everyone else, already knows the Supreme Court has ruled that abortions are legal and that unreasonable restrictions upon women seeking abortions or upon abortion clinics constitutes an illegal restriction.