Poll: Is Georgias new "death warrant" on abortions a good idea?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Quick show of hands: how many people think that this will actually stop abortions in Georgia, rather than simply driving them underground? Anybody? Anybody?

Quick show of hands: How many think this will pass? Anybody? Oh wait... the people here on Poly that CAN'T READ!

Like I said before this is so FAR from becoming law it is crazy. It is like wackos who submit bills in Congress for a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion. They introduced it, but if you think it will be law, you are smoking something.

But that's not the point. The point is that there are people here on Poly who think it's a good idea -- wackos, I believe you just called them. My argument is with them, not you.

[MarkG]

Is Georgias new "death warrant" on abortions a good idea?

it's stupid, stupid, stupid

if they want to ban abortion they should stand up and say it

[Jack the Bodiless]

It's nuts.

...And, even if passed, wouldn't it fail after the first test case? Last time I checked, it's legal to buy a gun in Georgia.

Therefore it's legal to use deadly force to defend yourself against assault, robbery or kidnapping. Enforced pregnancy is certainly assault by the fetus, almost certainly robbery by the fetus, and quite possibly kidnapping by the fetus also (you can't go places and do things that you could normally do).

Therefore it's killing in self-defense. Case closed!

[Goingonit]

Jack, there actually was a case in Canada where a women shot her fetus while it was in her uterus with a pellet gun. I forget the outcome, except that she was nuts.

[Jack the Bodiless]

Another reason why this would be nuts:

It establishes the principle of legal assassination. In principle, somebody could apply to the Georgia court for a death warrant against an adult. Depending on the mood of the court, there is a possibility that it might be granted.

Maybe I should take out a contract on John Ashcroft, on general principles. I might get lucky.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Originally posted by Jack the Bodiless
Another reason why this would be nuts:

It establishes the principle of legal assassination. In principle, somebody could apply to the Georgia court for a death warrant against an adult. Depending on the mood of the court, there is a possibility that it might be granted.

Maybe I should take out a contract on John Ashcroft, on general principles. I might get lucky.

Much as I would love to help you pay for such a contract, that probably isn't so.

However, the principle being established here is that the fetus is a person, and that a pregnant woman is actually a parent who can legally apply for the right to kill her own children. This should have some interesting ramifications for actual Georgia child-rearing...

"Bubba, you get out there and slop them hogs right now, or were gettin' us an order of ex-ee-cue-shun fo' yo' ass. You hear me, boy?"

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Nothing at all. Trouble is, they're not particularly material. If the state is going to start enforcing "responsibility" and "accountability" - then why don't we legislate a "responbility and accountability police" to tell people how they ought to be living their lives? People ought to drink and smoke less, eat less cholesterol, work harder, save more, educate themselves, and a ****load of other things - is it the state's business to regulate your life there? Hell no.

Until the fetus reaches a certain stage of development, it ain't the state's business. Now if you want to take the position that the state shouldn't be funding abortion on demand, I have no problem with that.

That's the exact kind of posturing non-answer I've come to expect from Floyd. Color me disappointed.

If an abortion is not related to the health of the mother or child, and no rape was involved, what else is it besides a means of birth control?
And how is that responsible ?

[Jack the Bodiless]

If an abortion is not related to the health of the mother or child, and no rape was involved, what else is it besides a means of birth control?

And how is that responsible ?

A major category is probably "contraception failure". There is no such thing as a 100% effective contraceptive.

And how is that being irresponsible?

[SlowwHand]

Of course. The abortions are primarily linked to contaceptive failure. How silly of me.

[chequita guevara]

It's just an operation, jeez.

[SlowwHand]

That deserves 2.

[chequita guevara]

I don't get the big deal. It's just an operation to remove an unwanted tissue mass that has the potential to become a human being but isn't one yet. It's no more immoral than having a mole removed.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
but isn't one yet.

You just hit the point of disagreement between the two sides.

[SlowwHand]

For abortions, and against executing murderers.
Some of this crowd are

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You just hit the point of disagreement between the two sides.

Yeah, I know. But a lot of people that support abortion also think it's immoral. I concede nothing to the enemy.