My name is Dissident and I admit I'm a trekkie- There's like 2 weeks till Nemesis!!!!

[Gatekeeper]

Well, if the Dominion or the Borg were to ever conquer/assimilate Earth, there'd be no taking it back. The former have sworn to wipe humanity out, should the Dominion ever manage to take Earth and the latter would assimilate Earth and add it to their galaxy-spanning Collective. Unless they're really still ticked off about Capt. Janeway and the Voyager destroying one of their transwarp hubs and infecting a portion of the Collective with a deadly virus ... then they might just eradicate Earth's human population as well. Heh. A species too dangerous to assimilate, and must be destroyed!

Gatekeeper

[Saint Marcus]

The Breen did bomb Earth.

I like the Breen. To bad we never found at what happened to them after the Dominion Wars.

[Dr Strangelove]

I'd like to know if they borrowed the Breen helmets from George Lucas. Didn't Leia wear one in Jabba's palace in "Return of the Jedi"?

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Gatekeeper
Well, if the Dominion or the Borg were to ever conquer/assimilate Earth, there'd be no taking it back. The former have sworn to wipe humanity out, should the Dominion ever manage to take Earth and the latter would assimilate Earth and add it to their galaxy-spanning Collective. Unless they're really still ticked off about Capt. Janeway and the Voyager destroying one of their transwarp hubs and infecting a portion of the Collective with a deadly virus ... then they might just eradicate Earth's human population as well. Heh. A species too dangerous to assimilate, and must be destroyed!

Gatekeeper

Didn't they actually manage to collapse all of their transwarp corridors? Haven't they killed the central control of the Borg? Haven't they effectively destroyed the Borg (well, in their present form at least)?

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison


Didn't they actually manage to collapse all of their transwarp corridors? Haven't they killed the central control of the Borg? Haven't they effectively destroyed the Borg (well, in their present form at least)?

Answered or replied to in order:

1. No. The Borg have (well...'had') I believe 6 Transwarp hubs (the thing we saw in the series finale of Voyager) either spaced throughout the galaxy or just throughout Borg territory in the Delta Quadrant. Although the loss of one was a major blow, by no means does it cripple Borg operations.

2. Yes, Voyager also managed to destroy Unimatrix 1 and kill the current incarnation of the Borg 'Queen', but remember that the borg can clone and reclone drones if needed. They assimilate to gain new technologies, they couldn't do that if they simply kept cloning themselves.

3. Not really. Again, they can reclone the 'Queen' (which they did sometime between ST:First Contact - remember, her flesh was melted off her bones and implants at the end of that movie - and whatever-episode of Voyager) and they can rebuild both Unimatrix 1 and the Transwarp hub they lost to Voyager. What might tie them up for a while is the civil war with the drones that were freed from within the collective, maybe even future contact with the freed drones on that planet that healed Chakotay or Hugh's Collective back in the Alpha Quadrant.



Yes, I'm a Trek geek, but I have never been to a single Star Trek convention.

[Dis]

and you are forgetting with the way they write those episodes they can pretty much do anything they want. They don't care about plot holes

[DRoseDARs]

Originally posted by Dissident
and you are forgetting with the way they write those episodes they can pretty much do anything they want. They don't care about plot holes

You know, I REALLY hate it when people use that copout argument "They're the writers; they can write what they want." That much is a given without saying. The point is to TRY to explain things in a rational, logical, workable way since the writers obviously didn't bother. That's part of the fun, part of the interest in watching the Science Fiction genre.

Talk about a conversation killer...AND IT'S YOUR OWN THREAD DISSIDENT!!! Sheesh!

[aahz_capone]

The purpose of plot holes is for use to figure out some technobabble reason for it to make sence.

There are enough alternate futures in which earth does get assimilated/conquered/destroyed/turn into jelly/etc.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
The Breen did bomb Earth.

I like the Breen. To bad we never found at what happened to them after the Dominion Wars.

I always found it odd that they wore Cooling suits, but their homeworld (according to Dominion Intel) was "Quite Temperate".

And why did they wear the suits in their ships?

As for the Borg....the borg are powerful, but not the unstoppable force protrayed in pre-Voyager ST. As we saw in First Contact, a borg cube had suffered heavy (though non-fatal) damage when it was doing battle with a dozen or so Federation ships.

This suggests that, "adaptability" aside, there is an upper limit to energy it can take before being damaged.


Which is one more reason why the Galactic Empire would wipe the floor with the ST Universe.

[Arrian]

Oh no, the old "Empire vs. Federation" argument. Run for your lives!

-Arrian

[aahz_capone]

The Breen homeworld might be "quite temperate" but who says that the Breen didn't evolve on a continent on thier homeworld which is not so warm? Or that "temperate"is only so as seen by the founders. Infact it could even be that they breath something other then the air we breath, and for that to be taken into their bodies needs to be at a low temperature. Such a wierdo atmosphere would not suprise me as the breen are one of the few species top use "organic" ships (besides species 8472) as we learn in voyager.