It's official: gay men are a geater threat than terrorists

[Bereta_Eder]

why should i provide links since i havent been disproven in anything i said?

unlike you.

and about israel i was ASKING. like ive been doing about all other matters. and in israel what you said was finally true, unlike the others things u said.



so you either stop discussing with me since you claim all is lies or you trust me and we continue. (at a later date though)

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by paiktis22
and you still havent gotten thru your skull that the human rights court cant enforce anything.

No court has the authority to enforce anything, sillykins. The United States Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to enforce any of its own rulings. That's why if the executive branch chooses to ignore it, then SCOTUS is powerless to stop it. That's what happened during the Civil War and Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus.

As I said, a court's authority to enforce extends just as far as its rulings are abided by. Since ALL of the EU's Human Rights Court's rulings have thus far been abided by, then it has de facto authority in its rulings. You can't say a court whose rulings are always obeyed has no authority. Clearly, whether it is written into law or not, this court has established a jurisdiction in which its rulings are followed, which included the UK ban against gays.

Capiche?

[Bereta_Eder]

the european court has the power to enforce its rulkings can even get out punishments if these are not enforced.


the human rights court is only worth the paper its written on


i didnt even read more than the 1 line you wrote.

dont waste my time with your ignorance about this please.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by paiktis22
which goes back in saying what we originally started to argue about:

the EU cannot interfere in national security matters (such as the army)

The EU DID force Germany to accept women equally into the army. Ergo this is not true.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by paiktis22
the european court has the power to enforce its rulkings can even get out punishments if these are not enforced.

And they were the ones who ruled Germany had to accept women into the Bundeswehr fully, and ergo they can interfere with European armies.

the human rights court is only worth the paper its written on

Again, any court whose rulings are universally complied with has de facto jurisdiction.

i didnt even read more than the 1 line you wrote.

dont waste my time with your ignorance about this please.

Then go away, I won't discuss things anymore with you if you won't read and respond to my legitimate arguments. Your trolling has seen far better days.

[Bereta_Eder]

ypu keep repeating the same things.

if you want to "beat" your opponent go somewhere else. or i will.


the european court of justice can enforce things the ECHR can do jack ass.


plain as the say and were you in any real conversation with any real people who know about these things you would already make yourself look like a fool.


german women, yes an exception.

i wont read besides a point if what you write is to "substanciate" apoint which is false and i know it is. objectively. (not a matter of opinion)

[Bereta_Eder]

now my girlfried is "forcing" me to go out and buy milk cigaretes and filter coffee and believe me she has more authority than what the european court of justice can ever hope to have.


so talk to you later when i can

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by paiktis22
ypu keep repeating the same things.

if you want to "beat" your opponent go somewhere else. or i will.

Don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out.

the european court of justice can enforce things the ECHR can do jack ass.

Are you saying that the European Court of Justice has the power to enforce a ruling from the European Committee on Human Rights? Wouldn't that mean that the ECHR's authority is then guaranteed by a body that can forcefully uphold its rulings?

plain as the say and were you in any real conversation with any real people who know about these things you would already make yourself look like a fool.

My arguments have been supported by documents and reason. You haven't refuted either to any degree of success, so I will take this statement as your surrender.

german women, yes an exception.

Exception? The ruling clearly states the court has the power to interfere in matters of personel for European militaries. That's not an exception, that's a rule.

i wont read besides a point if what you write is to "substanciate" apoint which is false and i know it is. objectively. (not a matter of opinion)

The cover-your-ears-and-sing-Mary-Had-a-Little-Lamb tactic, I see...

[SpencerH]

Boris, I agree that it makes less of a difference when you're crawling throught the tall grass than while sitting around on base somewhere. I believe MtG said pretty much the same thing.

The point keeps that keeps coming up though, is that the integration of gays into previously overt hetero organizations such as the military have only been successful in regions of the US and in other countries that already have less hostile attitudes towards gays than are common in the USA. Interestingly, Gen. Bradley made a similar point when Truman announced forced integration of the blacks into the US military.

Do you really expect acceptance by the military in a country where gay marriages (for example) are either illegal or do not have the same legal standing as hetero marriages?

[red_jon]

Paiktis always cracks me up, he's such a pathetic little troll.



He says that Britain shouldn't be in the EU as it goes against it too much, but then takes pride when Greece does so. Brtiain is a far more established member than Greece, even if we never join the euro.


And I'm pretty sure the European Court of Human Rifghts holds a certain degree of authority.

[Viking Berserk]

ok, heres an idea, just use those freaks as human shields...

[Ming]

Originally posted by Viking Berserk
ok, heres an idea, just use those freaks as human shields...

One more crack like that and you are toast

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Viking Berserk
ok, heres an idea, just use those freaks as human shields...

I've found many examples irl where the most homophobic people wind up being gay themselves.

[Buck Birdseed]

Apolyton isn't real life.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
Apolyton isn't real life.

Your point being?