It's official: gay men are a geater threat than terrorists

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Boddington's
If you allow queers into the service, the number of straight applicants would fall dramatically. We need to keep our army numbers high so I recommend keeping them out.

I'm sure they can find jobs as hairdressers. Being a soldier is too tough a job for a gay.

You're full of sh*t, dookieboy!

[tandeetaylor]

There are a lot of gays in the military. A lot. And everyone knows about them, and nobody cares... (Well, at least in Monterey there are) You can be flamboyantly gay in the military. Your platoon sergeant might know, but he probably doesn't care. If these people were in each other's rooms after visiting hours or were putting themselves at risk in some other way, that is the only reason they got in trouble. It also depends a lot on what stage in training they were in. If they were still in the "newbie" company, Bravo, they were much more likely to get caught. The cadre would prefer to look the other way, but when you break other rules, they have no choice. You wouldn't get kicked out for having a girl in your room after visiting hours, but you do get in a lot of trouble... especially in Bravo company, since there are no visiting hours. That would be tough to accomplish, actually.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by red_jon


Well then you're obviously in a very odd minority or never seen any debate on the issue - I and many people have heard this argument many times, in fact it seems to be one of the main points in the homophobic arguments in regards to the military.

I think you're confusing the debate on unit cohesion and unit combat effectiveness with "gays being distracted"

[Ming]

Originally posted by Boddington's
I'm sure they can find jobs as hairdressers. Being a soldier is too tough a job for a gay.

Next gay insult from you and you will be toast again. Take your bigotted comments somewhere else.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by GePap
Firts , all the arguments against Gays in the military are idiotic. They are simply based on prejudice. After all, the big Macho men of the army just don't want to deal with the tought of getting involved in homoerotic situaions. that is not a reason to ban men who want to serve from serving, but to get rid of those men who fear it.

Now hear this: The military doesn't give a rat's ass about notions of "rights" "progressive thinking" etc. The only real concern is for the easiest way of maintaining apparent fighting efficiency. In that regard, the military has busted male sergeants for ****ing female privates, female officers for ****ing male enlisteds, male officers for ****ing female enlisteds, and in some cases, single males for ****ing civilians. In the last case, there was a funny one at Ft. Sill, Oklahoma, where this (single) major who couldn't keep his pants zipped and was apparently good at getting female pants unzipped was warned repeatedly, then finally GCM'd and given five years when he got caught ****ing the wife of the mayor of one of the towns outside the base.

The simple point is that if you rock the boat and make a pain in the ass of yourself, you will be handled.

The main point is that we are told that this war on terror is key, and that it is so vital that X and Y freedom must be supressed to fight it,. yert at the same time the army must fight to keep its prejudiced policies even when it actively hurts that same war...

Says the man whose social engineering solution is to discharge anyone who has issues with open gay sexual conduct in a military setting. No offense, but I'll take a few fundie staff NCO's at places like Bragg, Benning, Hood, Stewart, etc., over seven outed student linguists in Monterrey. If you're going to argue gay rights, at list stick with people like Cammermeyer and Meinhold. (***** slaps red_jon for thinking I haven't heard debate on the "issue")

[SpencerH]

All those who've actially been in a combat unit, raise your hand. OK. Keep your hand raised those of you who think that at the present time that gays interfere with unit morale. OK, all of you.

[Viking Berserk]

who do you call terrorists? the only terrorists left in the world must be the us government and israel.

anyway, poo piratists shouldn't be banned from an army. the army should think practical, the more units the better.

[Viking Berserk]

WTF????? YOU SAID SOMEONE GOT PUT IN JAIL FOR HAVING SEX?????

[MichaeltheGreat]

Well, when your base is right outside a city, and one of your officers is ****ing the mayor's wife, it tends to create rather disporportionate problems. If said major had kept his attentions on unattached women and didn't trigger too many paternity suits, it wouldn't have been near as much of a problem. Mayor's wives are off limits.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
(***** slaps red_jon for thinking I haven't heard debate on the "issue")

Boddingtons, I wouldn't say things like that to my face if we meet.

[kolpo]

It is no surprise that in a groups of organized murder(read armies) there is much hate and intolerance. If you would in a prison put all murders togetter in a group and let them make rules will you also get intolerant and hatefull rules.

[chequita guevara]

IIRC, at least one NATO country allows gays in the military, possibly more.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
IIRC, at least one NATO country allows gays in the military, possibly more.

Britain does and I'm sure others must do.

[Bereta_Eder]

Greece doesn't.

Actually you just have to say you're gay and you're off the hook. (of conscription)

[MichaeltheGreat]

must... resist... temptation... to... post.... non-PC.... joke... about why the Greek army is the best.