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  • #16
    Re: The final and ultimate proof for the truth of Christianity

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    Originally posted by Wernazuma III
    Yet uncountable people, sages, philosophers and wise kings have accepted christianity to be the only truth which explains the world we're living in.
    The same can be said about all major religions. Norse and Greek mythology also had a lot of followers.

    So?
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • #17
      What religion does Masudi adhere to?
      Islam I suppose. Muslims and atheists are particularly active in pointing out alleged faults in the bible.

      Christian apologetics have been around for 2000 years and the same questions asked in the 2th century are still asked and answered today. "There is nothing new under the sun" - History repeats itself. An example is Arianism (early AD) which denied the divinity of JC just like the modern day Jehova's Witness.

      There are of course websites and books that answer questions posed by such as skeptic's annotated bible and muslim sites that state 'falsehood' in the bible. What often lacks is the willingness to look them up...

      Yet uncountable people, sages, philosophers and wise kings have accepted christianity to be the only truth which explains the world we're living in.
      Interesting outlook.

      ...there must be something so deep in their hearts, an enlightenment which is deeply rooted in the essence of their minds which can be nothing less than the ultimate and unquestionable driving force of our universe, the eternal Christian God.
      This is THE approach to christianity.

      To their own demise most religion-posters on Apolyton don't understand this.

      Didn't know you listen to Oprah UR. I certainly don't. Therefore God doesn't exist?

      The same can be said about all major religions. Norse and Greek mythology also had a lot of followers.
      Christianity is about converting and repenting UR. So?

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      • #18
        Jesus Christ is the Poor Man's Bhudda.
        eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophias

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lars-E
          Christianity is about converting and repenting UR. So?
          I hate to break it to you, but there's no difference between Christianity and other religions.

          It's true that lots of people believed in Christianity, but there are also lots of people who believed in other religions. There were also lots of people who believed the earth is flat.

          Do you understand what I am saying?
          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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          • #20
            That's right! I mean, look at all those sages who were Christians, like Gandhi.

            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #21
              As you notice, I do not believe in god.
              you believe in something far worse...

              The American Foreign Policy

              Quod Me Nutrit Me Destruit

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              • #22
                Masudi was a muslim, yes, but the anecdote seems to go back to Greeks from Alexandria in their anti-christian polemic. Bocaccio actually took the story from Masudi (with some works of other authors in between, he didn't know Masudi's work I think).

                BTW, I didn't copout from any internet site, I just repeated the story from Masudi here in order to see the replies of fellow apolytoners. I didn't mean to make any special point with the thread. I'm just a little bit anarchistic and watch the stone that I pushed rolling down in this discussion.

                I'm atheist BTW, as some of the smarter guys here will maybe have noticed
                "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                • #23
                  I believe it because it is absurd.

                  Oh wait, somebody already said that...
                  "When all else fails, a pigheaded refusal to look facts in the face will see us through." -- General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett

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                  • #24
                    I hate to break it to you, but there's no difference between Christianity and other religions.


                    by saying that you just showed how ignorant you are about christianity. It's truly hilarious to say something like that. And yes, there are christians who actually act like there is no difference. That's true.

                    Let's face it: The bible is a work full of contradictions, incoherencies, nonsense and plain stupidities. It is so contradictory and fuzzy that accepting it is absolutely unlogic.




                    it's so cute
                    The less people know, the more adjectives they need to express themselves.
                    Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                    Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Saint Marcus


                      you believe in something far worse...

                      The American Foreign Policy

                      I believe in the lesser evil of two policies. The leftist policy is the more evil one... where the leftist wants the smoking gun first where 100,000 people die, whereas I want preemptive action.

                      Anyways back to topic...
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #26
                        Cybershy, he is right. Accepting christianity is ignorant beyond belief... so many dumb assumptions...
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Fez
                          Cybershy, he is right. Accepting christianity is ignorant beyond belief... so many dumb assumptions...
                          It is a shame you are not a christian fuzzy Fezzy, anyway, you are young and you have time to repent.
                          Periodista : A proposito del escudo de la fe, Elisa, a mí me sorprendía Reutemann diciendo que estaba dispuesto a enfrentarse con el mismísimo demonio (Menem) y después terminó bajándose de la candidatura. Ahí parece que fuera ganando el demonio.

                          Elisa Carrio: No, porque si usted lee bien el Génesis dice que la mujer pisará la serpiente.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Plan Austral


                            It is a shame you are not a christian fuzzy Fezzy, anyway, you are young and you have time to repent.
                            Be quiet you.

                            The thing about christianity is... the only way you can accept is being completely ignorant of the facts. I will never fold to the lies!
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #29
                              Re: The final and ultimate proof for the truth of Christianity

                              Originally posted by Wernazuma III
                              Let's face it: The bible is a work full of contradictions, incoherencies, nonsense and plain stupidities. It is so contradictory and fuzzy that accepting it is absolutely unlogic. No one has the slighest chance to proof the bible right, neither by empiry nor by logic, one can't even argue with probabilities of the bible as a whole being true. In the contrary, daily experience seems to tell us at every instance that many parts of the bible are not congruent with reality.
                              Yet uncountable people, sages, philosophers and wise kings have accepted christianity to be the only truth which explains the world we're living in. If they did so despite all the contradictions there must be something so deep in their hearts, an enlightenment which is deeply rooted in the essence of their minds which can be nothing less than the ultimate and unquestionable driving force of our universe, the eternal Christian God.

                              (Satire, free from the arab chronicler Masudi who told the story of a coptic old man explaining why he believes in christianity)
                              To quote Friedrich Nietzsche: 'A casual stroll through a lunatic asylum will demonstrate that faith proves nothing'. Faith is a psychological/neurochemical phenomenon, and there is no reason to think anything other. Religion is nothing but a play on loopholes in the human psyche.
                              Speaking of Erith:

                              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                              • #30
                                How offensive.

                                Try to have a little respect for another's beliefs.

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