Gibraltar - 99% say "NO!" to Spain.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Which, by the end of the war, outnumbered the Chinese.

There would've been a hell of a lot more Chinese if you guys had known anything about tactics. Human wave attacks aren't the best use of manpower...

Yeah, sure

From official Chinese sources, PVA casualty during the Korean war was 390,000. It breaks down as follows:
KIA: 110,400
DIED OF WOUNDS: 21,600
DIED OF SICKNESS: 13,000
CAPTURED & MISSING: 25,600
WOUNDED: 260,000

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by paiktis22
Germany. And not only in WW2

Erm, we actually won WW2

So come on then paiktis, which wars have we lost in recent time? By all accounts, we same to have almost a clean sheet Oh yeah, there were those pesky Normans I suppose almost 1000 years ago

[Dr. Nick]

The reason why Britain hasn't lost a war since the Hundred Years Was is because the prerequisite for any British campaign is that the enemy be armed with sharp pieces of fruit. Even spears made them think twice.

[Provost Harrison]

But lets face it, the hundred year war was just effectively a draw, because we got pushed out of territory we occupied during that war. In reality, it was effectively a draw...

[Seneca]

Shouldn't Britain itself have a referendum on whether we want to continue subsidising these tax-dodging Mail-readers?

Surely the true test of Britishness is actually bothering to live here?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by El Awrence
The reason why Britain hasn't lost a war since the Hundred Years Was is because the prerequisite for any British campaign is that the enemy be armed with sharp pieces of fruit. Even spears made them think twice.

They lost the American Revolution. IIRC, they lost the Crimean War as well (but were able to keep the Russians from completely crushing the Ottomans). They were on the loosing side in the War of Austrian Succession as well.

[Ramo]

But lets face it, the hundred year war was just effectively a draw, because we got pushed out of territory we occupied during that war. In reality, it was effectively a draw...

England controlled Aquitaine before the Hundred Years War. In fact, that's the reason the war started; England didn't want to pay homage to France for owning the duchy of Acquitaine.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ramo


England controlled Aquitaine before the Hundred Years War. In fact, that's the reason the war started; England didn't want to pay homage to France for owning the duchy of Acquitaine.

There were two, "hundred-year wars," BTW. The first was started over Duchy of Aquitane (as well as Normany, Brittany, etc.).

The second (the one generally refered to as The Hundred Year War) started when the Capetian line of France died out, and Edward III asserted his claim on the basis of his mother, a French princess. France claimed Salic law denied decent through the woman, and handed the throne off to another line (whose name escapes me at the moment). Despite several English victories, the French nobles refused to accept an English king, even replacing one king with his son and refusing to pay his ransom after he was acptured.

[Ramo]

I'm referring to the second one. It's true that dynastic succession played a major part of it, but it initially boiled down the Aquitaine. It was siezed by Philip as his fief (which was the conclusion of the previous war), and the "hundred years war" started.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


They lost the American Revolution. IIRC, they lost the Crimean War as well (but were able to keep the Russians from completely crushing the Ottomans). They were on the loosing side in the War of Austrian Succession as well.

Not quite, old bean. The British, French, Turks and Piedmontese won the Crimean War. Russia reclaimed the strategic naval base of Sevastopol which had fallen to the allies, and the Ottoman Empire received in return Kars, which had fallen to the Russians. Russian losses came to approx. 600 000 including non-combatants. Russia was denied the outlet to the Mediterranean and the defeat was laid at the door of the Czar and his bellicose conservative ministers.

See: http://www.crimeanwar.org

As for the War of Austrian Succession, the British Empire profited quite nicely from that- although its ally, Austria, ceded Silesia and Glaunitz to Prussia, Great Britain was confirmed in its privilege of trading slaves to the Spanish Empire, confirmed in its favoured nation trading status with the Spanish overseas provinces, and the Protestant Succession to the throne was also recognised- so no more Jacobite uprisings sponsored by the French. The Spanish Infante picked up three or so duchies in Italy, but commercially and strategically, the British were better off by the 1748 settlement of Aix-la-Chappelle.

[Dr. Nick]

But lets face it, the hundred year war was just effectively a draw, because we got pushed out of territory we occupied during that war. In reality, it was effectively a draw

Aquitaine *COUGH COUGH*

[Lars-E]

Were the Malvinas inhabited by Indians before the British sailed by and claimed it in the name of the King and God and Indians?

I can understand the Gibraltarians. Spaniards and descendants in Argentina - take your hands off!

And Hong Kong - it was agreed. 1997. But disgusting like eminem so eloquently puts it.

What's the situation for Macau and other 'colonies' around the world I wonder...

BTW, English breakfast sounds like the breakfast I'd like to have NOW. I am hungry too, but I don't live in Britain so I guess not... American breakfast #2. Continental breakfast #3 just cos it sounds cool. Nothing cool about it though.

[Gangerolf]

From official Chinese sources

ahh

why would anyone believe anything they say

[Gangerolf]

spain: keep your filthy little hands off gibraltar. it doesn't belong to you.

anyway it's not fair to claim gibraltar as long as you have ceuta and melilla you hypocrits.

you'll have to find other ways to humiliate the gringos.

[Jack the Bodiless]

Well, at least nobody here has yet tried the "Ceuta was never a part of the Kingdom of Morocco" argument.

Gibraltar has never been a part of the modern democratic republic of Spain either.