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  • #76
    Fez:
    Because everybody does.
    Chile, England, Australia, Argentina, and some more countries, they all claim a portion of Antartica and give different excuses like, geographic proximity, or having established cientific missions there very early.

    I agree with you, Antartica shouldnt belong to any country.

    Awrence, there is no need to be aggressive to Compañero Fez.
    Periodista : A proposito del escudo de la fe, Elisa, a mí me sorprendía Reutemann diciendo que estaba dispuesto a enfrentarse con el mismísimo demonio (Menem) y después terminó bajándose de la candidatura. Ahí parece que fuera ganando el demonio.

    Elisa Carrio: No, porque si usted lee bien el Génesis dice que la mujer pisará la serpiente.

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    • #77
      Okay, okay, I was just wondering if there was history behind it...
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #78
        Originally posted by El Awrence
        I guarantee my country's military is better than yours. Without a doubt.


        Like that destroyer run aground off Australia? Or the submarine run aground off the coast of Scotland?

        As for the Falklands, they were NEVER Argentinian, when Britain claimed them there was NO Argentina, it belonged to Spain, and they never claimed the islands before the British.
        The people living there are all British, but UNLIKE Gibraltar, there are no displaced decendents.


        *ignorance sirens go off*
        I'd like to point out that neither of those statements was made by a Brit. A response to them as if they were British is kinda pointless.


        Too lazy to translate that, but it proves that the Malvinas were illegally usurped by Great Britain since there was an Argentine administration in the Islands.
        The British were there first, but were expelled by Spain in the 1770s. The Argentinians took over control of the islands in 1820. The US (not UK) attacked the fortifications in the Falklands and declared the Falklands as being "free of government". The British returned in 1833 based on claims of sovereignty dating back to before the Spanish expulsion.

        Ignoring any legal claims, as both side can believe what they want, the only logical thing to do is to let the people of the island decide what to do. At last count almost no-one wanted to be ruled by Argentina.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Fez
          If Gibraltar won't accept our rule we won't let them into our country. I know that is kind of nationalistic but if they want to spit in our country's face like this then they will get screwed.
          How on earth is it spitting in anyone's face to vote that you don't want to be a part of a country to which you have no national ties? If a resolution was defeated in California that stated it would be given back to Mexico, would that be spitting in the face of Mexico?
          Tutto nel mondo è burla

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Boris Godunov


            How on earth is it spitting in anyone's face to vote that you don't want to be a part of a country to which you have no national ties? If a resolution was defeated in California that stated it would be given back to Mexico, would that be spitting in the face of Mexico?
            This is Gibraltar we are talking about, not California or Mexico.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Fez


              This is Gibraltar we are talking about, not California or Mexico.
              It's called an ANALOGY Fez.

              Now answer the question--how is it spitting in the face of Spain for British subjects to want to remain British subjects?
              Tutto nel mondo è burla

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              • #82
                Originally posted by El Awrence
                Like that destroyer run aground off Australia? Or the submarine run aground off the coast of Scotland?
                See, we have a navy
                Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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                • #83
                  Fez,

                  If Gibraltar won't accept our rule we won't let them into our country. I know that is kind of nationalistic but if they want to spit in our country's face like this then they will get screwed.
                  Spain will have to withdraw from the EU it wants to do that... in fact, to be honest, I'm surprised the border arrangements aren't under scrutiny from Brussels already.
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                  • #84
                    Is Gibraltar considered part of the EU?

                    If it is Spain could just send settlers in no problem - freedom of movement laws 'n' all. 25,000 or so would be able to swing the vote.


                    I'm surprised the border arrangements aren't under scrutiny from Brussels already.


                    Apart from the tax haven status of Gibraltar why would you think the EU would get involved?
                    One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                    • #85
                      Brits are always spitting in ppls faces and causing problems, you'd think Spain would be use to it by now.
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Japher
                        Brits are always spitting in ppls faces and causing problems, you'd think Spain would be use to it by now.
                        Thats the French.
                        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
                          It sucks to be Spain right now...
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                          Because Spain sucks ass.
                          Originally posted by Datajack Franit
                          I never liked Spain and never will
                          Some (or all) of this post can be jokes, but it's sad to read them
                          Trying to rehabilitateh and contribuing again to the civ-community

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Japher
                            Brits are always spitting in ppls faces and causing problems, you'd think Spain would be use to it by now.
                            Just quoted.

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                            • #89
                              It's also sad to read attacks on british people, paiktis22. But as far as there is many english people they can defend themselves, much better that I can defend them
                              (My english is not very good)
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                              • #90
                                I am also the only Greek here and we have differences with the English and they are hoardes.

                                Kind of like it though. The sole defender against the brainless myriads of screaming hoardes. Like Constantinople.

                                Seriously, don't take anything seriously here except what YOU find interesting

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