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  • #61
    Hmmmm...this thread appears to be turning into another creation/evolution debate.

    Nothing unusual about that of course...
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    • #62
      I knew before I even came here the Sava's and others like him would be blustering about this.

      Funny how some call for proof, then discount any proof supplied.
      Burn baby burn.
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      • #63
        Hmmmm...this thread appears to be turning into another creation/evolution debate.


        Can't find any creation / evolution argumentation in there (except for the Sava troll of course)
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        • #64
          Sava is the embodiment of "troll".
          Watch out, Horsey. You have major competition.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #65
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Sava is the embodiment of "troll".
            Watch out, Horsey. You have major competition.
            Nah
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SlowwHand
              Sava is the embodiment of "troll".
              Watch out, Horsey. You have major competition.
              No chance. The only competition Horsey ever had was Civie.
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              • #67
                The thing is that I now and than almost am tricked into giving a serious response to Sava.

                But when I see the name AH next to a post, I never have that, but only have the smile and

                AH is absolutely the troll master!
                He can't be token seriously, not even if he wants to!
                And indeed, Civie might come close!
                Nobody will ever take him serious.
                Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                • #68
                  The best trolls are the ones who say things that can be taken in more than one way. Then the troll can chop and change more easily.

                  They also have to protect their reputation - not be seen as a "one trick pony".
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                  • #69
                    Quick questions about the original topic: how common were the names "James" and Jesus in that region during that time-period? How come there are no contemporary Roman archives about the man? Nor any Hebrew for that matter?
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                    • #70
                      According to the article I read, fairly common; but only about 20 Jameses in Jerusalem during that era with a brother named Jesus and father named Joseph.
                      Referencing a brother named Jesus, and a father named Joseph, was more than rare.
                      That seems to be what makes it valid.
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                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • #71
                        How come there are no contemporary Roman archives about the man? Nor any Hebrew for that matter?


                        No roman archives because Israel wasn't important to the Romans. One of their border provences

                        And that there are no archives in the jewish history is logic, because Jesus wasn't particulairy friends with the religious leaders.
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                        • #72
                          I was reading in another article that there are three Roman historians from the early second century that mention Jesus. I half recall that Tacitus mentioned him.

                          That's four from non Christian sources. Now we have the tomb of James.
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                          • #73
                            And again, how many grave stones, tombs, whatever have you seen that reference family members by name?
                            I've seen none, but they might exist, I guess.
                            Usually it's like "Beloved Brother and Son".

                            So for James to call out Joseph and Jesus by name, well ...
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #74
                              I was reading in another article that there are three Roman historians from the early second century that mention Jesus. I half recall that Tacitus mentioned him.

                              That's four from non Christian sources. Now we have the tomb of James.

                              Like you say, early second century. By then Christianity had well taken off so there are bound to be mentions of Jesus by then. And what makes you assume that the James of forementioned tomb is THE James, brother of THE Jesus? Like Sloww said, there were about 20 Jameses that fit the bill.
                              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                              And notifying the next of kin
                              Once again...

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by SlowwHand
                                And again, how many grave stones, tombs, whatever have you seen that reference family members by name?
                                I've seen none, but they might exist, I guess.
                                Usually it's like "Beloved Brother and Son".

                                So for James to call out Joseph and Jesus by name, well ...
                                It wasn't written on or in the tomb but on a box placed inside the tomb. If at all, since, according to the first post in this thread, the box wasn't discovered in a tomb at all.
                                Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                                And notifying the next of kin
                                Once again...

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