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**Dauphin** · October 22, 2002, 16:32

Because of their own nagging doubts or to convert others to their 'religion'.

**Robert** · October 22, 2002, 16:35

Then why do people like you two invade all religious themed threads ?

Because they can't let the discussion go. It's more important to them than they ever will admit or pherhaps even know.

**Hueij** · October 22, 2002, 16:37

Originally posted by DinoDoc
An atheist started the thread. Take it up with him.

My take is that he posted it out of scientific interest. If it is ever proven that the Christian Jesus is based on a historical Jesus that would be front page news. It's the religious types like yourself that all jumped up and down in excitement, claiming that you were right all along. We just wanted to calm you all down by pointing out that this "new" find doesn't prove nada

**SlowwHand** · October 22, 2002, 16:37

Probably, SD.
They should thank, whatever, for people of religious convictions. It seems we're all that gives their sorry lives purpose.

**DinoDoc** · October 22, 2002, 16:41

Originally posted by Hueij
It's the religious types like yourself that all jumped up and down in excitement, claiming that you were right all along.

I did no such thing.

**Hueij** · October 22, 2002, 16:42

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
Because of their own nagging doubts or to convert others to their 'religion'.

Hehe... on the contrary. I don't want to convert you. If you are happy with your beliefs by all means keep them. Now if all you Christian types stop to try make the rest of us live by YOUR norms and values you won't ever hear from us again.

**Dauphin** · October 22, 2002, 16:44

How many historical references are there to Mohammed? And do the people who believe Jesus did not exist have views on the existence of Mohammed?

**SlowwHand** · October 22, 2002, 16:45

The Netherlands don't exist, so go away.

**Dauphin** · October 22, 2002, 16:46

Originally posted by Hueij

Hehe... on the contrary. I don't want to convert you. If you are happy with your beliefs by all means keep them. Now if all you Christian types stop to try make the rest of us live by YOUR norms and values you won't ever hear from us again.

I've never imposed my views on anyone. Most people are unaware of my values or of what I consider norms - the only people who do have specifically asked me.

It took one of my friends 8 years to realise I even had religous beliefs.

**Hueij** · October 22, 2002, 16:54

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin

I've never imposed my views on anyone. Most people are unaware of my values or of what I consider norms - the only people who do have specifically asked me.

It took one of my friends 8 years to realise I even had religous beliefs.

Maybe not you personally. But a lot of them wouldn't hesitate a moment to take away my right (I'm Dutch

) to smoke weed, to marry my boyfriend (should i be gay), to decide for myself how and when I die, to have an abortion, to shop on a Sunday etc, usw... Ask Cybershy...

**Robert** · October 22, 2002, 16:59

We just wanted to calm you all down by pointing out that this "new" find doesn't prove nada

I know that it doens't prove anything.
But I get slightly tired of people who claim that Jesus never existed. Not because of my faith, but because I feel you must be pretty ignorant to claim such a thing.

Pherhaps like other people feel that I'm ignorant about saying that evolution didn't happen

Now if all you Christian types stop to try make the rest of us live by YOUR norms and values you won't ever hear from us again.

YES PLEASE! Stop that

I'm serious on that. The christian faith is not a moral-container!

**SlowwHand** · October 22, 2002, 17:00

For abortion, but probably against capital punishment.
Again, the model of consistency.
Personally:
1) I think laws against reefer is stupid.
2) I couldn't care less if you marry your Gay buddy.
3) Suicide is a chicken **** way out.
4) Shop till ya drop.

**Robert** · October 22, 2002, 17:02

Maybe not you personally. But a lot of them wouldn't hesitate a moment to take away my right (I'm Dutch ) to smoke weed, to marry my boyfriend (should i be gay), to decide for myself how and when I die, to have an abortion, to shop on a Sunday etc, usw... Ask Cybershy...

Cool, I didn't read this yet before my first reply.
Did I ever say things like that?

Or is it your 'vooroordeel' that I will think that way?
I'm serious on the issue that we christians *should not* tell others what to do and what to don't.

But if we're in a discussion about things, I can defend my point of view, that's fair, isn't it?

**SlowwHand** · October 22, 2002, 17:06

Atheists. Gots to love 'em. Always good for a laugh.

**Hueij** · October 22, 2002, 17:08

Did I ever say things like that?

Yep

But if we're in a discussion about things, I can defend my point of view, that's fair, isn't it?

Yep again, as long as you don't want to make me living according to your point of view...

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