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  • #121
    James= Jesus brother. But not mary's son. James was from another Joseph's other marraige I believe.

    Owell what does it mean? Nothing anyway. I dont think anybody doubted he ever existed in the first place. Whats questionable was he the son of god?

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    • #122
      I've had that tried on me on numerous occassions Chowlett and it is so transparent. In that sense, Christianity seems to be like one big pyramid scheme. The Christian babbles on about how atheists are cruel about their beliefs, but how many door to door atheists do you see in real life, or trying to thrust their beliefs down their throat. Online is a special context.

      After a year, my Christian friend gave up...no salvation for me
      Speaking of Erith:

      "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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      • #123
        The issue of ignorance is a thorny one, and I admit to not knowing the answer. But the problem with your line is that it's just not true. You don't become saved through good deeds, because you'll never be perfect. You become saved by accepting that Jesus died in your place for that imperfection, and you must be truly sorry for your shortcomings. Your causality is reversed - you don't do good deeds to become saved, you do good deeds because you feel love for your Saviour.
        The church is the only organisation that exists for the benefit of its non-members
        Buy your very own 4-dimensional, non-orientable, 1-sided, zero-edged, zero-volume, genus 1 manifold immersed in 3-space!
        All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does. That's his.
        "They offer us some, but we have no place to store a mullet." - Chegitz Guevara

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        • #124
          Originally posted by monkspider
          Wanna be another member of the Christian Commie team Che?
          Nope. As I wrote. The fact that the man in all likelihood existed doesn't mean he was a God.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #125
            Lauren, if James was not Mary's son, he wasn't Jesus' brother...

            PH - nice self-contradiction there. Your friend gave up, yes? So he's no longer "shoving his morality down your throat", then?
            The church is the only organisation that exists for the benefit of its non-members
            Buy your very own 4-dimensional, non-orientable, 1-sided, zero-edged, zero-volume, genus 1 manifold immersed in 3-space!
            All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does. That's his.
            "They offer us some, but we have no place to store a mullet." - Chegitz Guevara

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            • #126
              Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat

              It's still a tremendous find.
              Thanks Mike - I was very happy with the paint job and it wasn't hard to scuff up the box. Finding a suitable tomb to leave it in took a bit of time though.

              Amazing how cheap it is to buy off carbon daters.
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • #127
                The way I have always viewed this issue is that Christianity is God's special revelation to the world. However, a non-christian can still be saved by god's general revelation, ie the set of morals that all humans seem to have (for example, it's wrong to torture babies for fun). So if someone is kind, compassionate, charitable, etc, they are likely to make it into heaven. Conversely, if a Christian fails to show these traits, they shouldnt' assume they will be saved simply on account of their Christian beliefs.

                While nihlists and some of the more conservative elements of christianity are likely to disagree with me, I feel that my beliefs are probably the most reasonable explanation of how things will work in the after-life.
                http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                • #128
                  Is Gandhi now in hell because he wasn't christian? I doubt it. You can die in complete ignorance of christianity and still be christian if you display the virtuous qualities of compassion etc.
                  Although I doubt Gandhi's years of study in London would have left him in complete ignorance of Christianity.
                  yada

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                  • #129
                    Also, on that note, I think Christians will be held to higher standards since they were able to hear God's special revelation.
                    http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by Chowlett
                      Lauren, if James was not Mary's son, he wasn't Jesus' brother...
                      He could be a half-brother, but I thought James was a younger brother, and Mary was still around at Jeshua's death according to the texts, so it's unlikely James would be a half-brother.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by chegitz guevara


                        He could be a half-brother, but I thought James was a younger brother, and Mary was still around at Jeshua's death according to the texts, so it's unlikely James would be a half-brother.
                        If God is Jesus's father, and Mary was his mother, then if Mary wasn't James's mother, how could James be his brother without being divinely born himself?
                        Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Chowlett
                          The issue of ignorance is a thorny one, and I admit to not knowing the answer. But the problem with your line is that it's just not true. You don't become saved through good deeds, because you'll never be perfect. You become saved by accepting that Jesus died in your place for that imperfection, and you must be truly sorry for your shortcomings. Your causality is reversed - you don't do good deeds to become saved, you do good deeds because you feel love for your Saviour.
                          Yes, very interesting viewpoint. As long as you are killing those pesky heathens and infidels in the name of God, it doesn't matter. It's such a pathetic cop out. As long as you are under the churches whip, putting in the collection box, you're fine

                          ...and no self contradiction. She was just an example, and she kind of backed off in the end when she realised she just wasn't making any progress. But there is still that irritation of how sanctimonious Christians are and their false feelings of superiority. Oh what a shock they will get (or won't get, as it should be )
                          Speaking of Erith:

                          "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                          • #133
                            Che - note two things.

                            a) What is my belief?
                            b) Who, therefore, do I assume is Jesus' father?
                            The church is the only organisation that exists for the benefit of its non-members
                            Buy your very own 4-dimensional, non-orientable, 1-sided, zero-edged, zero-volume, genus 1 manifold immersed in 3-space!
                            All women become like their mothers. That is their tragedy. No man does. That's his.
                            "They offer us some, but we have no place to store a mullet." - Chegitz Guevara

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                            • #134
                              Che, you're an amazing guy. I'm not kidding. Not one bit.
                              I give you static, but hey, that's just me.
                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • #135
                                "Lauren, if James was not Mary's son, he wasn't Jesus' brother..."

                                half brother or step brother. Generally are refferred to as brothers

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