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  • Kyoto opposition surges: 72% of Albertans demand Ottawa withdraw from the accord

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    72% of Albertans oppose Kyoto
    Poll results

    Charlie Gillis
    National Post

    Saturday, October 05, 2002

    EDMONTON - The Alberta government received some long-awaited ammunition yesterday for its war against Kyoto, as a public opinion poll suggested 72% of Albertans think Canada should withdraw from the climate-change accord.

    Some 70% believe the deal will put Canada at an economic disadvantage, according to the government-commissioned poll, while 25% of respondents said Canada would not suffer a disadvantage.

    Nineteen percent said Canada should go ahead and ratify the accord.

    The results were drawn from a survey by Environics West, a Calgary firm that surveyed 1,200 Albertans between Sept. 17 and Oct. 2. It is considered accurate to within 2.8 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

    The finding suggests an about-face in Albertans' opinions on Kyoto and salves a sore point for the Progressive Conservative government. For months, the province's anti-Kyoto battle had been undercut by polls suggesting Albertans actually support the accord to reduce greenhouse gas emissions -- even if they did not know what it said.

    One survey released by the province last May suggested fully 72% favour Kyoto, while national polls pegged support well above 50%.

    Critics immediately attacked the new poll as skewed against Kyoto, noting that the key question -- whether Canada should ratify the accord -- was preceded by references to exemptions granted to developing countries.

    The preambles also referred to the U.S. decision to withdraw from the protocol.

    "You can get very different answers from polling depending on the way questions are asked," said Matthew Bramley, director of climate change for the pro-Kyoto Pembina Institute. "I do think the poll is quite unfair in the way it's composed."

    Still, Mr. Bramley said the findings suggest the province's $2-million advertising campaign against Kyoto is working -- a fact he admits worries him.

    He described the government's message, which hit the airwaves and newspapers in the province on Sept. 18, as "misleading." Among other things, the province's ads warn that Kyoto could cost Canada 450,000 jobs, drive up taxes and inflate fuel prices.

    He warned Albertans against the government's call for a made-in-Canada solution, saying previous attempts to cut greenhouse-gas emissions in Canada have failed.

    "Albertans need to know that an unilateral Canadian alternative to Kyoto is very unlikely to reduce our emissions," he said.

    Janet Brown, a research consultant with Environics West, agreed that Albertans appear to be getting behind the government, but defended the organization of the poll.

    While the questions do mention downsides to Kyoto, respondents were also asked whether they thought emerging technologies would offset economic disadvantage wrought by the accord, she noted.

    "We did present two arguments, a strong argument for and a strong argument against," Ms. Brown said, "and we tried to balance the questions ... the length of the descriptions [of pros and cons] might have been slightly different, but we did rotate the order of them in asking."

    The poll also suggests Albertans are much more familiar with Kyoto than they were several months ago, Ms. Brown said.

    Fully 91% of respondents said they had heard of it, and 55% of those individuals claimed to be very familiar or somewhat familiar with its terms.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    I have now removed you from my ignore list.

    I need a celebration smilie...

    Long live Capitalism! Long Live the People's true Economic System, capitalism. Down with the Kyoto Protocol! Up with wealth!

    Oh shoot... I got to memorize some hamlet lines... argh... better get back to that... no time for debate...
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fez
      I need a celebration smilie...
      ?
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #4
        As always...
        ppl putting their immediate personnal (and even hypothetical) benefits before a common long term goal or cause....
        Its sad but not surprising

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        • #5
          I have a feeling that Fez removed Asher from his ignore list before he even read this thread... Or maybe he is just a good hacker.

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          • #6
            Exposing what is mortal and unsure..
            To all that fortune, death and danger dare,
            even for an eggshell. Rightly to be great
            Is not to stir without great argument...



            LuThyme, people are starting to realize they better think about long term capitalism and reap its benefits which will eventually reduce pollution.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LulThyme
              As always...
              ppl putting their immediate personnal (and even hypothetical) benefits before a common long term goal or cause....
              Its sad but not surprising
              It sounds like you're talking about Kyoto, what with "hypothetical benefits" and all.

              Most people in Canada don't have a clue about Kyoto or why it might not be the best idea. Most of Canada don't know that we're being screwed by European countries which refuse to give us credit for "clean gas exports" because they'd prefer we buy credits from them. Most people in Canada don't have a clue that the people who will brunt the most impact from Kyoto will be the large companies, and those large companies will simply move 100km south where there is no Kyoto.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                those large companies will simply move 100km south where there is no Kyoto.
                USA! USA! USA!
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                • #9
                  Stay in Kyoto. I want to see Otowa enforce it on Alberta and watch the fireworks.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #10
                    I think Australia is going to opt out of Kyoto as well. Maybe we are all the new axis of evil??

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                    • #11
                      Freeriders are cool.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #13
                        Klein was talking about separation and Kyoto, and once the media made a big deal about it he insisted he only meant that Kyoto will cause increased interest in separation movements.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #14
                          I'm suprised you aren't tired of supporting that lazy wanna-be French province yet.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #15
                            You Albertans are too good for the rest of the country, you should just break off...
                            "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                            "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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