US Conservatives Concerned...

[Kropotkin]

And when we're at it: Don't forget that ignorance is strengh!

[Kepler]

Maybe there are so many lefties with PhDs because they're... well... smarter?

Just a thought.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by Sardaukar


So its the job of a university to take our large amounts of money and "re-indoctrinate" us? I spend a lot of money and should take what I think is important for me, not what some university thinks I should know that 's completely irrelevant to what im studying.

It's a form of PC, liberal agenda, forced indoctrination.

I'm forced to take large amounts of science and math courses, yet I'm majoring in the Humanities and the Arts...wouldn't the 'liberal agenda' elminate the requirement of math for me?

No wonder conservatives repeat the mistakes of history...they don't think its necessary.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Kepler
Maybe there are so many lefties with PhDs because they're... well... smarter?

Just a thought.

[Sardaukar]

I'm forced to take large amounts of science and math courses, yet I'm majoring in the Humanities and the Arts...wouldn't the 'liberal agenda' elminate the requirement of math for me?

Consider yourself lucky then. Science and math is good for you. Puts hair on your chest and promotes critical thinking and logic skills. Plus science and math arent used to promote unneeded and unwanted political agendas.

Im not referring to individual cases like yours. I'm referring to wholesale efforts by the liberal agenda to bully its views in and out of the classroom. And stifle free speech to boot.

No wonder conservatives repeat the mistakes of history...they don't think its necessary

Not the kind of history that blames the "oppressive white male power heirarchy".

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Sardaukar


Consider yourself lucky then. Science and math is good for you. Puts hair on your chest and promotes critical thinking and logic skills. Plus science and math arent used to promote unneeded and unwanted political agendas.

Oxford Biochemistry graduate here and that lack of 'pushing unwanted political agendas' hasn't stopped me from possessing a highly developed and thought out political opinion. Try your reasoning again...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Maybe there are so many lefties with PhDs because they're... well... smarter?

Or rather, too stupid to get a real job?

[Shi Huangdi]

It's no secret that the humanities and social scienese are overwhelmingly leftist. I suspect it would be even higher % of leftists if you excluded economics departments.

"Maybe because all those right-wing high school and primary school teachers couldn't figure north and south on the map!"

All of my high school teachers were leftists, in fact my World History teacher was a socialist. The key is just to filter out their bias in their subjects and do what you need to get a good grade in the course. Most teachers, however, it seems are tolerant of students having views that disagree with their own.

[GePap]

First lesson in Apolyton: never assume the other posters are stupid, unless you know they are.

So many good conservatives graduate from top flight universities, that either those indoctrination classes are failing, or the professors aren't trying to indocrinate at all. I agree that most Social science profs' are leftists, specially on social issues. I did get to meet lenty of more center- or rightwing guys at my universty though- not all in the crypto-fasicst ( ) econ department though.

The only universities that in my opinion actively seek to indoctrinate are those that accuse al other universities of doing that and style themselves as 'fair minded' and 'independent', and 60-70% of the time, they are conservative Universities.

[mindseye]

I spend a lot of money and should take what I think is important for me, not what some university thinks I should know that 's completely irrelevant to what im studying.

Ah, a voice crying out for education!

Why are more teachers lefties? It's not obvious? Because teaching is, by definition, a job for those who care about people more than money. Not many righties pass that filter.

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by Sardaukar Consider yourself lucky then. Science and math is good for you. Puts hair on your chest and promotes critical thinking and logic skills.

Another one confusing personal viewpoint and tastes with objectivity. Don't see much of the criticial thinking in that. A university student myself I can trash most science-students when it comes to that departement.

You know there's a 1984-word for that as well, doublethink. If courses you dislike is forced on you, the courses that you likes that is forced on others is equally bad. I think there's a gap in your logical skills.

[Lincoln]

Let's see now... There are several million "right wingers" feeding the poor of the world and caring for the orphans of the world and caring for the sick and diseased people of the world. Maybe they are too busy to sit in an ivory tower and spew out the glories of socialism??

[Sardaukar]

If courses you dislike is forced on you, the courses that you likes that is forced on others is equally bad. I think there's a gap in your logical skills.

My logic is fine. im talking about courses that provide a well-rounded liberal arts education- science and math fit that bill. Some courses should be required along the way as long as they dont politicize or offer liberal fluff like intro to feminism or some other leo buscaglia crap. I could be taking something more substantive for the money I'm spending.

[chequita guevara]

So go to Bob Jones, whiner boy. You voluntarily attend a university with multicultural requirements. The choice is yours, shut up and stop being a whiner-boy or go someplaces else. It's your money after all. You agreed to go there, knowing they had requirements. You agreed to take the classes. It's too bad that they challenge your conservative indoctrination with history about someone besides you.

[Lincoln]

I think you are whining about the "whiner boy"