Do women really like to be treated like crap?

[Dis]

I'm starting to realize this. Unfortunately I was raised to respect women. I have a hard time treating women like crap . But I'm learning.

Treating them nice has got me nowhere. Except the nice guy label which is a death sentence for an eligible bachelor. Next girl who calls me a nice guy is going to force me to embarass her in public some way (well more embarrassing than her being seen with me at least)

[FrustratedPoet]

Re: Do women really like to be treated like crap?

Originally posted by Dissident
(well more embarrassing than her being seen with me at least)

is there anything more embarrassing than that?

[Pekka]

Dissident, you're in trouble. I have the nice guy label too. Damn it! Women always talk to me about their ex-boyfriends and stuff. And when they start calling to my cell.. and start talkign about boring stuff like what women are talking to each other.. nothing important in other words, I go crazy! Only thing missing is 'hey girlfriend'. I don't know why.
I got my hands on some Rocco Siffredi tapes though.. I'm learning!

[Mr. President]

Let me guess. You consider anything short of "Let's get naked" boring, right?

[Gangerolf]

pekka, you're in prison?

women like attention, sometimes it seems they don't care what kind of attention

[Dauphin]

You don't treat them crap to avoid the nice guy label, just make carefully placed friendly/jokey insults or impolite but amusing comments.

Failing that, lear at every women you see, that will tarnish your reputation good and proper.

[Mr. President]

Failing that, lear at every women you see, that will tarnish your reputation good and proper.

I'd mock you, but the challenge is gone.

[DrSpike]

Treating them like crap may work if you goal is to get any woman Diss. If your goal is a little more focused Dolphin is right, irrevently take the p1ss a lot, putting you in "the nice guy really" category, but not the "nice guy" category.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Mr. President


I'd mock you, but the challenge is gone.

In case you couldn't tell, I was being sarcastic.

[Sikander]

If you want to score with women, there is a clinic on the matter in the movie "The Saint". Just watch how Val Kilmer stalks and seduces Elisabeth Shue. It's hilarious, but also true.

[boann]

this is one of the more crazy things men say
when they don't understand women.

women do NOT like being treated like crap.

"nice guy" sometimes is "boring guy"

most of us just don't like to be bored... some so called nice guys turn out to not have anything interesting to do or say.
I like intelligent men who have more inside their heads than maners . I also like passionate men who have
opinions and know how to talk about the things that make them passionate.

the other thing that is misleading is that we generally
don't like someone always agreeing or up our xxx.
we like to have a good disagreement and debate.

you gotta have your own interests and leave us some space. no one likes someone always in their face and
under foot. but on the other hand we don't like to be ignored or neglected either...

but no one likes to be treated like crap..
should i say that again...
we might have different reasons for not going for the
so called "nice guy" but it isn't because we want to be treated bad.

on the other hand...........
you all know that its death to a woman to be thought
the "nice girl" that usually means shes got a nice personallity but looks homely... which means we are everyones friend but no one asks you out ...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by boann
on the other hand...........
you all know that its death to a woman to be thought
the "nice girl" that usually means shes got a nice personallity but looks homely... which means we are everyones friend but no one asks you out ...

Its a well-known fact that men prefer bad naughty girls over Ms Prim and Proper.

[MrWhereItsAt]

My most.... successful male friend does not treat women like sh*t, at least not until AFTER he has broken up with them. This shows he is not a perfect model to study, but he certainly knows how to start a relationship. Unfortunately this usually means the girl will fixate on him after the break-up too, with often very nasty results.

I hear some guys saying "Oh yeah? Well if I knew what he did to begin with, I could do better than him." I don't doubt it. Thus I will try my best to tell you what he does, from my observations over the last 5 years.

He flatters EVERY girl he doesn't hate. He has some little "thing" with every girl he has contact with - some little personal thing, a saying or topic of interest that they feel makes them and them alone special to him. He will talk about himself and his own likes/dislikes/hobbies VERY often (in fact he does this with everyone, and I find it annoying, meself), but it draws them into his world. This guy is not particularly exciting. His most exciting attributes are that he is a predominant member in the University Drama Club and that he is an amateur stand-up comedian. Otherwise he is a hardcore wrestling fan, failing Drama student, loves TV, does little work at Uni, is on a benefit and rarely leaves his house. He plays no sports, is certainly not a typical squarish male model etc etc. But with his stories he draws these girls into his world. Most of his ex-girlfriends become (shock HORROR!) wrestling fans shortly before they start going out. This to me is incredible, but it is because he talks about his love for it, and talks about it with such passion that it makes him seem more interesting than, say, me.

Having said all of that, I would LOVE to hear a woman's perspective on such behaviour (on the remote chance a woman reads my post), and whether I have it all wrong.

He has the self-confidence to be noticeable and to show you what he is, and this (for SOME reason) girls seem to like.

Now if anyone could tell me WHY they like this, I would be happy.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin


Its a well-known fact that men prefer bad naughty girls over Ms Prim and Proper.

Au contraire. I like the challenge of turning Ms Prim to the dark side.

[boann]

"Its a well-known fact that men prefer bad naughty girls over Ms Prim and Proper. "

"Au contraire. I like the challenge of turning Ms Prim to the dark side."



the truth be known....men like them to be both.
Im a woman and thats one thing I do know
for certain about men.