Why exactly are gay marriages not recognized in the U.S. ?

[chequita guevara]

However, they can have children. Gay people can both adopt as well as have children the natural way (i.e., with an opposite sex partner), in vitro fertilization, etc. Therefore the lack of raising children argument isn't a viable argument.

[Shi Huangdi]

well the $.25 cents reply is that it is not government's role to foster the basic relationship in society or to help foster future generations.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
AFAIK, only one country recognizes gay marriages, the Netherlands.

The reason no other country (that I know of) recognizes gay marriages is because of religion, pure and simple.

Does China recognize Gay Marriage? Does North Korea? Does Cuba? Did the USSR? Did the Paris Commune?

[chequita guevara]

The USSR did recognize gay marriages before Stalin took over. Marriages were a lot simpler and easier to get out of before Stalin also. In so many ways, Stalin ruined everything. Of course, if the USSR banned same sex relationships, all socialist countries after Stalin had to do so also.

It is a "bourgeoise sexual deviation," the ultimate expression of men's hatred of women or something BS. This is why you only find Trotskyists openly supporting homosexual rights among the communist movement, and embarassingly, that was only recently, in the last 30 years.

The Commune was rather retrograde in its recognition of rights. Women didn't have the vote in the Commune, but it only lasted 71 days, so we can't really tell how things would have moved. I can't even guess as to whether or not gay men had any rights.

The last time Castro was in NYC, a few years back, he was questioned about the oppression of gays in Cuba. He acknowledged that their treatment of gays was a problem and needed to be fixed, but I don't know what, if anything, has been done. However, the level of oppression in Cuba of gays was never as bad as was supposed. I've got an article around somewhere that discusses how that story came to be, but I'll be jiggered if I can remember where.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
well the $.25 cents reply is that it is not government's role to foster the basic relationship in society or to help foster future generations.

That's a value judgement. Outside of the libertarian world view, just about everyone agrees that the government does have a role in ensuring a stable society which perpetuates itself.

I personally think that civil marriages should be called something else and leave the word marriage to the religious folks.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

I personally think that civil marriages should be called something else and leave the word marriage to the religious folks.

exactly

And 25 cents? What's up with your inflated price on your statements?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Unless Lincoln's willing to consummate the marriage with Poochy it's liable to annulment.

Lincoln? Can you confirm your willingness to doggylock?