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Why exactly are gay marriages not recognized in the U.S. ?

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  • #16
    I could recognize a gay marriage; two men or two women taking marriage vows, how is that hard to figure out?

    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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    • #17
      Because in any contest between tolerant and intolerant people, the tolerant compromise. That's why Creationists, anti-abortionists, gay-bashers, racists, and other far right loons aren't laughed off the planet -- it's too much of a pain in the butt to deal with them.
      It is much easier to be critical than to be correct. Benjamin Disraeli

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      • #18
        It's probably better to be an atheist, pro-abortionist, Christian bashing bigoted left wing looney. Then you can pretend that you know everything and judge the rest of the planet.

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        • #19
          I am a Atheist, anti-abortionist, Christian bashing right-wing Spanish Nationalist...

          Also Lincoln, if you think that is true then why are those religious nuts always trying to do the same? You are so full of it.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Fez
            Also Lincoln, if you think that is true then why are those religious nuts always trying to do the same?
            Tolerance depends more on the individual than on the belief system being used. I've met a fair number of intolerant atheists and intolerant theists, as well as a fair number of tolerant atheists and tolerant theists.
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            • #21
              intolerant atheists
              Hi there... I guess you met one of them just now...
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Fez
                Hi there... I guess you met one of them just now...
                I didn't include online personas in that tally, since a lot of people who are ignorant trolls online are probably much better behaved in real life (since they'd get their teeth knocked out in real life if they acted the way they do online).
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                • #23
                  I am not an ignorant troll. I am as atheist in real life as I am here.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #24
                    My question really hasn't been answered. Why does AMerica not allow the same benefits to monogomous homosexual relationships that are afforded their heterosexual counterparts. The fact that its interpreted as a sin in the Bible is not a valid answer.

                    And if there isn't a valid reason why this unfairness continues why has it continued so long in this modern age? I know plenty about how wrong the word niggardly but two gay men are essentially discriminated agaisnt by the governement because of their sexual orientation.
                    When one is someone, why should one want to be something?
                    ~Gustave Flaubert

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog
                      My question really hasn't been answered. Why does AMerica not allow the same benefits to monogomous homosexual relationships that are afforded their heterosexual counterparts. The fact that its interpreted as a sin in the Bible is not a valid answer.

                      You may not consider it a valid answer, but it is the reason why.
                      "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                      "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
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                      • #26
                        You may not consider it a valid answer, but it is the reason why.
                        I don't believe its a valid answer because it seems to be a knee jerk answer. It was my original answer and I believe it is going to be most of the European's and liberal's but I'm hoping there is a better reason why it is taking so long for gay rights to be recognized.
                        When one is someone, why should one want to be something?
                        ~Gustave Flaubert

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                        • #27
                          The answer is simple: The US is a Christian nation. Most Christians do not support the notion of gay marriages, at least not to the point where a politician will likely stay in office legalizing them.

                          There's nothing more to discuss.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                          • #28
                            AFAIK, only one country recognizes gay marriages, the Netherlands.

                            The reason no other country (that I know of) recognizes gay marriages is because of religion, pure and simple.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog


                              I don't believe its a valid answer because it seems to be a knee jerk answer. It was my original answer and I believe it is going to be most of the European's and liberal's but I'm hoping there is a better reason why it is taking so long for gay rights to be recognized.

                              Keep hoping, but there isn't. Look at what Asher said - that's pretty much the sum of it. I don't think it's right, but it's a pretty cut and dry issue.
                              "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                              "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                              "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                              • #30
                                The line has to be drawn somewhere. Why can't a brother and sister be officially married? Why can't a man have 3 or 4 wives or husbands(?), or why can't a person marry a dog (if they are truely in love)?

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