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  • How is Ronald Reagan responsible for widespread suffering to millions of people around the world? Is this a dig at the end of communism thing? The people of eastern europe overthrew their goverments because they wanted to. It was the communists who had already caused untold suffering throughout eastern europe.
    Nicaragua ring any bells there? How about knowingly allowing Iraq to wage chemical warfare against Iran and against it's own people? OR various other chady dealings in Central America?

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    • Johnson I think received his fair share of vilification, though perhaps not all for the right reasons.
      True - his War on Poverty was just as bad as his war on Vietnam.
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      • Well poverty is something that needs to be encouraged
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        • Well, the War on Poverty ended up creating a lot of problems, such as reliance on the government instead of reliance upon oneself, and in any case it was a waste of tax money on social programs, which to me is unacceptable.
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          • On a sidenote, I always like to gleefully point out that it could only be the British who would think it proper military tactics to march into battle using big, densely-packed block formations while wearing astoundingly-bright red uniforms with giant, pointy black hats on top...


            Boris, Boris, Boris... I can't believe you actually said this. The 'block' formation was actually a VERY efficient formation. It is refered to as the 'square' however. Where the front line (on their knees) fired, the line behind them got ready to fire, and the line in the back was loading their rifles. Once the first line fired, they ran to the back of the line and the lines switched. By using this formation they were able to fired 3 times as many shots in a certain period than any other army. By being in a square, they covered all sides. It was this way that they could defeat armies when they were vastly outnumbered (Plessy rings a bell here).

            As for the bright red uniforms. Can you think about anything else that is bright red? That's right blood. When the soldiers were shot, the blood wouldn't be seen and thus wouldn't spook the rest of the troops as much. Very intelligent, I have to say.
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            • Imran: Both you and Doc have no sense of humor about this.

              I know how the block formation worked, etc. It's just funny to tweak the prissy Brits about it. You're reading entirely too much into it.

              Come on...look at those uniforms... They're fuuuuuunny.

              Besides, such tactics didn't seem to help them win, did it?
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              • Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                Imran: Both you and Doc have no sense of humor about this.

                I know how the block formation worked, etc. It's just funny to tweak the prissy Brits about it. You're reading entirely too much into it.

                Come on...look at those uniforms... They're fuuuuuunny.

                Besides, such tactics didn't seem to help them win, did it?
                I'm surprised Americans find losing to a bunch of untrained freedom fighters amusing
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                • Originally posted by TheStinger


                  I'm surprised Americans find losing to a bunch of untrained reedom fighters amusing
                  Huh?
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                  • Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                    Huh?
                    Vietnam.
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                    • Originally posted by TheStinger
                      Vietnam.
                      Ah. Well, I don't find it amusing because it's more recent, more tragic and stupid, and was far more wasteful of lives. Not to mention, the British had at a lot more justification for waging war in the Revolution than we did in Vietnam...
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                      • Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                        Ah. Well, I don't find it amusing because it's more recent, more tragic and stupid, and was far more wasteful of lives. Not to mention, the British had at a lot more justification for waging war in the Revolution than we did in Vietnam...
                        I was being flippant as ever, I realise Vietnam is in people's memories and i shouldn't use it for humour.

                        Having said that.

                        At least we lost the war to the those damn revolutionaries looking smart and presentable
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                        • Originally posted by TheStinger
                          At least we lost the war to the those damn revolutionaries looking smart and presentable
                          Yes, you at least maintained your dignity...in those powdered whigs and knee breeches... *snicker*

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                          • George Washington and all the other traitors to the crown had silly wigs too though.

                            Then again Tony Blair wears a suit as does GW

                            EDIT by GW I mean Bush not washington
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                            • Yes, and at least you Brits have some justification to be indignant about that whole war.
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                              • Athe time maybe.

                                I don't think there's many that are bothered anymore
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