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  • Originally posted by Asher
    Canada muscled US firms out of Canada and companies didn't exist with the capacity to replace them, which is why it was economically so bad for Alberta. The hostile takeover attempts by Canada on foreign owned companies didn't exactly go over well either.
    The counter argument to this is that Canadian companies did not have a level playing field to compete against the big foreign oil firms that had massive amounts of capital. So naturally there were no Canadian companies to replace them, but that was the whole point. The NEP was designed to foster a Canadian-owned oil companies, something that was absent from the market.

    Yes, there was short-term pain (or as whatever term you want to use), but it was designed for long-term benefits, at least in terms of increase Canadian ownership of the industry.

    (Going for 500, even if I have to do it on my own.)
    Golfing since 67

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    • My contribution the the CANADIAN musical iterlude:

      You Can't Bring Me Down

      What the hell's going on around here?
      First off-let's take it from the start
      Straight out-can't change what's in my heart
      No one-can tear my beliefs apart, you can't bring me
      You aint-never seen no one like me
      Prevail-regardless what the cost might be
      Power-flows inside of me, you can't bring me
      Never-fall as long as I try
      Refuse-to be part of your lie
      Even-if it means I die, you can't bring me

      You can't bring me down!
      Who the hell you calling crazy?
      You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson
      ...was eating Fruit Loops on your front porch

      Time out-let's get something clear
      I speak-more truth than you want to hear
      Scapegoat-to cover up your fear, you can't bring me
      You aint-never seen so much might
      Fight for-what I know is right
      What up-you got yourself a fight, you can't bring me
      Stand up-we'll all sing along
      Together-aint nothin' as strong
      Won't quit-we aint in the wrong, you can't bring me

      You can't bring me down!

      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, no!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, you can't bring me
      down!

      Tell them what's up rock!
      You can't bring me down!

      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, no!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, you can't bring me
      down!

      So why you trying to bring me
      So why you trying to bring
      Well you can't bring me down

      Just cause you don't understand what's going on
      ...don't mean it don't make no sense
      And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good

      And let me tell you something

      Before you go taking a walk in my world,
      ...you better take a look at the real world
      Cause this aint no Mr. Rogers Neighborhood
      Can you say "feel like *hit?"
      Yea maybe sometimes I do feel like *hit
      I aint happy about it, but I'd rather feel like *hit
      ...than be full of *hit!
      And if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry
      But, maybe you needed to be offended
      But here's my apology and one more thing...Fvck you!
      Cause you can't bring me down

      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, no!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down!
      Bring me down - you can't bring me down, you can't bring me
      down!

      You can't bring me down!

      Suicidal!!!

      “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
      Or do we?

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      • Or:

        Where's The Truth

        Late at night, that's the time I can't forget it
        Sail the darkness but this ain't sleep
        Heard the sound, could it be I got the message
        But the message wasn't intended for me
        Can't you see there's a madman working
        He's putting in overtime
        Too content with the sweet scent of denial
        You're oblivious to the signs

        It's a struggle for the reason
        But it's the only thing I know

        No surprise, here's more lies and you still are wailing
        What the hell are you saying
        And you're fly fly flying with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, why you lying
        Truth abuse, what's the use, it's not a game you're playing
        Do you know what I'm saying
        And you're high high hiding with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, where's the truth

        I'm not you, you're not me, that's the difference
        So you can't deny we're the same
        What's the point, that's what sticks huh exactly
        Take a second helping of the blame
        Not a scare not a bomb not a warning
        A condition that no one should doubt
        There's a tick tock tick tock
        Ticking in my head you gotta get out

        Yet I cannot deny the reason
        'Cause it's the only thing I know

        No remorse, danger course, and you still are wailing
        You don't know what you're saying
        And you're fly fly flying with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, why you lying
        Sick in thought, disease you've caught
        Is it a game you're playing, do you know what I'm saying
        And you're high high hiding with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, where's the truth

        It's a struggle for the reason
        But it's the only thing I know

        Too much tweak, dosage leak
        And you still are wailing, what the hell are you saying
        And you're fly fly flying with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, why are you lying

        Set to lose, why you choose
        It's not a game you're playing, do you know what I'm saying
        And you're high high hiding with lie lie lying
        Where's the truth, where's the truth

        Where's the truth, where's the truth, where's the truth
        Where's the truth, where's the truth, where's the truth
        You're lying!
        “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
        Or do we?

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        • And:

          Give It Revolution

          Throughout all time and history
          The world's been mauled tyranny
          Now we're refusing to take it
          The worst evil the world has saw
          Were crimes defended by the "law"
          Deny our rights and we'll break it
          You got to break the chains that hold you down
          Crush the tyrants to the groud
          Freedom cannot be legislated
          We'll bow down to no other one
          The Father and His Son
          They can't deny what he's created
          Most wars never should have been thought
          But this is a war that must be fought
          We'll take a wrong and we'll right it
          The greatest weapon of the fascist
          Is the tolerance of the pacifist
          We've got to stand up and fight it
          We'll give it

          You got to give it revolution, give it revolution
          We're gonna give it revolution, give it revolution
          You got to give it revolution, give it revolution
          We're gonna give it revolution

          Well you can put a bullet in my head
          But you can't kill a word I've said
          You got the disease, I got the solution
          No matter how much or more you try,
          you can never ever make this martyr die
          I give it revolution
          Revolution!
          You could put a bullet in my head
          But you can't kill a word I've said
          Give it revolution
          No matter how or what you try
          You can never ever make a martyr die
          Give it revolution
          Revolution
          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
          Or do we?

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          • And now a political commercial from your respective government representative.....

            FVCK YOU I RULE

            Now back to the program...

            Good I hope Cretien enjoys his pension, it will be more than most Candians make in every 6 years...

            Most criminals make a dollar an hour...without the pension
            “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
            Or do we?

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            • Now back to the music:

              Get up, Stand up!

              (CHORUS)
              Get up, stand up
              Stand up for your rights
              Get up, stand up
              Don't give up the fight
              (2x)

              You, preacher man don't tell me
              Heaven is under the earth
              I know you don't know
              What life is really worth

              It's not all that glitter is gold
              And half the story has never been told
              So now we see the light
              We gonna stand up for your rights
              Come on

              CHORUS

              Cause you know most people think
              A Great God will come from the skies
              Take away everything
              And left everybody dry

              But if you know what life is worth
              Then you would look for yours on earth
              And now you see the light
              We gonna stand up for your rights

              CHORUS

              We're sick and tired of this game of technology
              Humbly asking Jesus for his mercy
              We know and we know and understand
              Almighty Jah is a living man

              You fool some people sometimes
              But you can't fool all the people all the time
              And now we see the light
              We gonna stand up for our rights
              “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
              Or do we?

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              • RIGHT NOW

                Don't wanna wait til tomorrow,
                Why put it off another day?
                One more walk through problems,
                Built up, and stand in our way ,ah
                One step ahead, one step behind me
                Now you gotta run to get even
                Make future plans, don't dream about yesterday, hey
                C'mon turn, turn this thing around
                Right now, hey
                It's your tomorrow
                Right now,
                C'mon,it's everything
                Right now,
                Catch a magic moment, do it
                Right here and now
                It means everything
                Miss the beat, you lose the rhythm,
                And nothing falls into place, no
                Only missed by a fraction,
                Slipped a little off your pace, oh,
                The more things you get, the more you want,
                Just trade in one for the other,
                Workin so hard, to make it easier, whoa,
                Got to turn, c'mon turn this thing around
                Right now, hey
                It's your tomorrow
                Right now,
                C'mon, it's everything
                Right now,
                Catch that magic moment, do it
                Right here and now
                It means everything
                It's enlightened me, right now
                What are you waitin for
                Oh, yeah, right now
                (Solo)
                Right now, hey
                It's your tomorrow
                Right now,
                C'mon, it's everything
                Right now,
                Catch that magic moment, and do it right,
                Right now
                Right now, oh, Right now
                It's what's happening?
                Right here and now
                Right now
                It's right now
                Oh,
                Tell me, what are you waiting for
                Turn this thing around


                And?
                “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                Or do we?

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                • This looks like spam to me.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Do you thing the mods have looked at any of this?
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                    • Ah bested you are

                      Don't feel bad you just added the whine of life
                      “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                      Or do we?

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                      • I didn't see horse around here.
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                        • Lets see Asher adds nothing and notintellegenteither compains when someone adds thier own musical interlude
                          You two lovers are tops
                          “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                          Or do we?

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                          • Work on your back swing.
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                            • It's not our fault, blackice, it's just that you're a pathetic divorcee who thinks he got the shaft from feminist pigs in life and have devoted your life to meaningless court dates to try to make a difference when you don't realize you're simply wasting your time with a giant mess of a "democracy". You've succeeded not only in making an ass out of yourself on a public forum, you've repeatedly said that you do the same thing in courtrooms all the time. I imagine the judge gets a great kick out of it. I wonder if you speak as well as you write?

                              (How was that for a troll? )
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • Originally posted by blackice
                                Lets see Asher adds nothing and notintellegenteither compains when someone adds thier own musical interlude
                                You two lovers are tops
                                There's a difference between trying to calm down a heated discussion with a song than you bumping this up from page 3 with like 5 posts in a row of meaningless songs. Yours is what we in the business call "spam".
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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