Your political views

[Pandemoniak]

How can you say "pure evil" ? Who defines what is devil and what is good ?

God ? lmao
Bourgeoisie.

[loinburger]

capital punishment is not legal

It is in most states in the US, as well as in many other nations around the world.

[Pandemoniak]

not in democracy

USA is freemarket, not democracy, markets are fre, while people are slaved to markets.

[Al B. Sure!]

Pande:

A little thing called the Soviet Union and another called People's Republic of China are enough proff that communism only results in slavery.

[Sava]

I'm not a communist, you forget.

I don't think that just because someone is a janitor that they aren't good enough to live at the same quality of life that I enjoy.

If the state provides health care, education, efficient mass transit, energy and communications. Then the janitor won't need to be paid as much for his services because most of his needs are met.

Basically, I want to cut the amount of wealth people get from their jobs dramatically. You would put that money into creating efficient systems that everybody can use. Then what small amount of money you make will be the basis of your personal wealth (i.e. luxuries).

Should everybody be paid the same? NO! Should everyone have the same opprotunities? Yes! Should all of their needs be met by the state? Yes!

Beyond that, markets can be as free as possible.

I want the state to control:
energy, transportation, education, health care, food, and provide a basic level of housing among what the state currently does

Any other commercial market can be almost completely free (held to today's legal standards).

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Pandemoniak
not in democracy

USA is freemarket, not democracy, markets are fre, while people are slaved to markets.

the US is a 'democracy' (not technically, I know)

it is just that the people choose to be enslaved

it is our job to convince them otherwise

Jon Miller

[Pandemoniak]

Oh. Last time I was called a "stalinist" just because I have trust in man was by a revisionnist, lepenist. Communism means nothing, bts. If you take marx theories, they never say a police state has to be, they say state must be abolished. Without state, there cant be any slavery, death penalty, etc...

[loinburger]

Without state, there cant be any slavery, death penalty, etc...

Nope, just sweet, glorious anarchy. How wonderful it will be when everything is legal because there is no longer a state to create and enforce laws. I intend to move to Antarctica if it happens, as doing so will probably extend my lifespan considerably.

[Al B. Sure!]

Sava:

The problem is that the government has almost always been proven inefficient at controlling those things you mentioned. It turns into a swollen bureaucracy, the members of whom take most of the tax money, with no incentive to actually create an efficient system.

and how do you sustain the right number of workers in, let's say, energy? If few people want to work in the energy 'market', would the gov't raise their wages to attract more workers? Or would they simply force people to become energy workers?


thanks

[Sava]

The state is necessary to protect the people because you will have slavery, death on an enormous scale because it will be natural selection. The fittest will survive and exploit the weak. Please don't tell me that you believe anarchy will be free of slavery and death.

[DinoDoc]

I love communists, they remind me of various fundamentalists. Thier faith is the common denomenator.

[alofatti]

Sava, you have beaten me in the leftist score (-6.25)! How could that be? I need a revision of my overly conservative ideas...

[Sava]

Nope, Albert, you pay people wages according to demand... that's one thing that is good about a market system. But I think that all the manual labor should be paid at an hourly system. This would allow people to work in multiple fields and to be versatile in their job skillset.

But it all has to start with somebody strong enough to keep the system in order. This is the hard part because you would need a dictator, but one who would not abuse his power. Rome survived for hundreds of years on such a system. I think we can improve on such a system.

[Pandemoniak]

Im actually anarchist. If you think Anarachy is just mess, go read some Bakounine, some Proudhon, some Baboeuf, or just log off.
If you dont think that anarchy means disorder, you'll now its the political transcendance.

Miller said USA is democracy : go read "Free Market and Democracy", by Noam Chomsky

http://www.zmag.org

Cheers, comrade, I gotta go to bed. Its 7 am and i work tomorrow. I mean in a couple of hours.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sava
I live in Chicago, IL; I am going to DePaul University and studying computer science.

My Alma Matter. Make sure you get Professor Harry for C and C++ training. He's the best CompSci teacher they have.