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New York pizza is the best in the world, I feel so lucky to be in this city! 
Pizza is American, just like the hamburger.
Pizza is American, just like the hamburger.
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Pizza is Italian. You ever say it is American... I will personally buy a Tank and run into your house with it.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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It's like the Chinese and pasta.
Sure, they invented it, but the Italians took it and made it a world-wide food associated with their culture.
Same thing with pizza. The Italians may have invented it (though the Greeks should get partial credit, too), but America took pizza, popularized it and gave it to the rest of the world. It's an American institution.
My anti-Tank gun will turn your bucket of bolts into scrap metal in no time.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Uh no, the Italians took pasta and made it good to fit their standards.
The americans on the other hand took pizza and ruined it. It is purely an italian institution and never belonged to the Americans.The Italians may have invented it (though the Greeks should get partial credit, too), but America took pizza, popularized it and gave it to the rest of the world. It's an American institution.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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And that's different from what I said how?Originally posted by Fez
Uh no, the Italians took pasta and made it good to fit their standards.
It is indisputable that pasta was brought to Europe from China by the Italians. They popularized it in the Western world.
Pizza as it is known to most of the world (outside of Italy) isn't the Italian creation, it's the American incarnation.The americans on the other hand took pizza and ruined it. It is purely an italian institution and never belonged to the Americans.
Anyway, considering your tastes in all other matters, I'm gonna just have to disregard your opinion on what makes good pizza and what doesn't.
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It isn't. I was just adding a small point.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
And that's different from what I said how?
No it is not. American pizza = garbage. Sorry but that is the way it is.Pizza as it is known to most of the world (outside of Italy) isn't the Italian creation, it's the American incarnation.
Or who makes good pizza. Italians make good pizza, Americans on the other hand... I am sorry but Americans should stick to hamburgers.Anyway, considering your tastes in all other matters, I'm gonna just have to disregard your opinion on what makes good pizza and what doesn't.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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actually, the chinese/easians pretty much only did noodles.It's like the Chinese and pasta.
Sure, they invented it, but the Italians took it and made it a world-wide food associated with their culture.
and that's still associated with the orient.
but che's right, chicago pizza is good. very filling...
lotta spectacular places make it, too. eduardo's, pizza uno, etc.B♭3Comment
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Then why did you start the sentence with "Uh no?"Originally posted by Fez
It isn't. I was just adding a small point.
That's your opinion, which you're entitled to, but the fact that American pizza is what became popularized throughout the world is indisputable. That has nothing to do with the quality of the pizza, just the historical fact of how it was spread.No it is not. American pizza = garbage. Sorry but that is the way it is.
Hmm, I dunno about that...at least in Western nations, noodles are associated most often with spaghetti and other Italian dishes.actually, the chinese/easians pretty much only did noodles. and that's still associated with the orient.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Well sorry about that. I need to go to sleep...Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Then why did you start the sentence with "Uh no?"
It is?That's your opinion, which you're entitled to, but the fact that American pizza is what became popularized throughout the world is indisputable.
You can say it is indisputable but that is your opinion
Pizza was spread from Italy and made popular from there. People often assoicate pizza with Italy, not America.That has nothing to do with the quality of the pizza, just the historical fact of how it was spread.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Fez: Pizza was confined to Italy (mostly the peasantry) and certain ethnically Italian neighborhoods in American cities until World War 2. After the war, returning G.I.s who had eaten it in Italy wanted to have it in the U.S., and that led to the rise of pizza as an American institution. It became quite popular and you saw the rise of pizzarias all over cities and national pizza chains.
It was after that when pizza spread, in its American form, back to other European countries like France, Britain and Germany, as well as to other regions of the world.
Only recently has true "neopolitan" pizza, which is essentially what NY pizza is, been becoming common in areas outside Italy. Up until a few years ago, such pizza would be confined to "gourmet" Italian restaurants only.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I looked it up as well. Different source. Besides I can taste the smoking.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
No, smoked mozarella is smoked mozarella. Provolone is aged mozarella.
Then again it could be the variety I buy.
Varieties: mild; medium; sharp; smoked.
I most buy cheeses from here though:
They don't mention provolone on the site at the moment. Depends on what they are pushing in the Fearless Flyer.Comment
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I must say I´m dissapointed. When I was in Genua I ate traditional italian pizza. tasted ok, but nothing extraordinary... They make better Italian pizzas in SwedenOriginally posted by Fez
You got to be kidding.
If I had a choice I would eat real Italian pizza any day, any time.
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Originally posted by Ethelred
That was freely stolen and modified from Mr. Mike's Least Loved Bedtime Tales on Saturday Night Live.
I feel that Mike's version of the Little Engine That Could deserves continued use rather being lost to Comedy Central's SNL marathons.
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Best pizzas are in Rome
(where else?)
And pasta was brought to the italians by the greeks. (although this is not known, so I forgive the ignorance).Comment
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And there was me thinking Marco Polo brought it back from China, in noodle form.Originally posted by paiktis22
Best pizzas are in Rome (where else?)
And pasta was brought to the italians by the greeks. (although this is not known, so I forgive the ignorance).
Seriously though, I thought it was the arabs who brought it to places like Malta and Sicily.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.Comment
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