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  • #76
    I am sorry but I don't argue with anybody with a degenerative argument style. Welcome to my ignore list.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Ned


      We told Musharraf to cool terroism and he seemingly complied. We, and the EU, should tell Ecevit that Turkey MUST provide for Kurdish autonomy or independence if a new Kurdish state is formed. The fact that the Turk military is largely financed by the United States should weigh heavily in the Turk response. If the EU supports the US in this, a peaceful solution of the Kurd question is entirely possible.
      I'm notg persuaded that the Pakistanis have cooled it that much. If anything they have been more active than ever in Kashmir and I doubt the temperature between Indian and Pakistan is gouing to thaw for some time..

      Nice idea to talk to the Turks but I doubt very much that they will agree to making large tracts of Turkey and autonomous Kurdish region anytime soon. Still, it doesn't hurt to try....
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Fez
        I am sorry but I don't argue with anybody with a degenerative argument style. Welcome to my ignore list.
        Does that mean I no longer need to put up with your overblown and childish debating style?

        Hurrah!

        Can someone quote this so Fez can see it?
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        • #79
          Originally posted by Ned
          Detroit Dave, Ritter may be right and he may be wrong. Here is a current AP story where Israel seems to corroborate what we have heard from the Bush administration that Iraq does have renewed programs to develop WoMD and is nearing completion.

          "Israeli intelligence officials have gathered evidence that Iraq is speeding up efforts to produce biological and chemical weapons, said Sharon aide Ranaan Gissin.

          "Any postponement of an attack on Iraq at this stage will serve no purpose," Gissin told The Associated Press. "It will only give him (Saddam) more of an opportunity to accelerate his program of weapons of mass destruction."

          The United States has been considering a military campaign against Iraq to remove Saddam from power, listing him as one of the world's main terrorist regimes. However, there is considerable world opposition to a U.S. strike.


          As evidence of Iraq's weapons building activities, Israel points to an order Saddam gave to Iraq's Atomic Energy Commission last week to speed up its work, Gissin said.

          "Saddam's going to be able to reach a point where these weapons will be operational," he said.

          Gissin said Israel was not seeking to dictate the timing of a U.S. military campaign but said that, faced with the threat of one, Saddam was fast developing weapons."
          I would be very cautious pinning any major activoity on the word of Mossad right now. This is avery major coup for an organisation that recently has suffered from frankly being a bit crap. Rather too good to be very likley. The closeness of Israel and Bush right now and Bush's need to have some justification for his activities in Iraq would make me read that particular report with a whole salt cellar full of salt before I decided to believe it.
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          • #80
            Sorry about my spelling.
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            • #81
              Well there are hearing coming up in Congress on Monday. Presumably, Bush will present evidence of Iraqi WoMD development programs. Otherwise, Congress will surely bolt the "coalition" as did Nato after Ritter's address.
              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Spartak


                Does that mean I no longer need to put up with your overblown and childish debating style?

                Hurrah!

                Can someone quote this so Fez can see it?
                That would be unethical!

                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #83
                  The Street Wall Journal?

                  What kind of crap is that?

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                  • #84
                    I voted for Bush. His short sighted unilateral moves have done more to mess up stability in the world than anything Saddam has ever done.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #85
                      Imran, I find it impossible that a person of your intelligence could have voted for Bush.
                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Boris Godunov


                        That would be unethical!

                        Thank's Boris.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ned
                          Imran, I find it impossible that a person of your intelligence could have voted for Bush.
                          Um... why not? It's true. If anyone thinks that the ruler of a pissant Mid East country has more influence on the stablity of the world than the President of the United States, you are on crack.

                          And there is more than enough evidence that Saddam has been a stabilizing force in the ME. Without him, you would have Greater Iran and fundies having greater reign in the region.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Azazel
                            come on, you can clearly see that noone ACTUALLY made ANY move because of that . he stepped on some toes , but they all just moved their feet because of that.
                            None? Pretty hard to say at this point. If anything people will try to make better warheads. It is said that the Russians have scramjet powered ICBM warheads that move at Mach 5.
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • #89
                              Anyone that voted for Bush [in this poll] should have the American flag stapled to their butt and mailed to Baghdad.
                              -rmsharpe

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                              • #90
                                Looks like 43 (60%) express packages are going to Baghdad, yipee.
                                Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

                                -Homer Simpson

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