"I know we are the greatest nation in the world"

[notyoueither]

Che Why are you so concerned with how I express myself? And why are you trying to tell me how to do so? This isn't the first time you've said something of the sort, I think. Spink launched a thread with some outrageous claims, I answered in an outrageous fashion. Are you POed you missed the fun?

Harrison, read the thread. You are FOS. I never said or argued half of what you say I did.

Spink, red_john, TheStinger, Gary, MOBIUS, and others... love ya. Twas fun. Let's do it again some time.

[Tolls]

Ethelred:
"United Fruit was on the stock market."

So was the East India Company...most of our colonial efforts came from attempts to secure trade advantages for various companies, and to keep the locals pacified while we took advantage of them...which is why it looks like the companies were simply an arm of the colonial office, whereas it was really the other way around.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Boddington's
I agree with Red_jon, Americans don't even realise that they are being arrogant and nationalist. They think those are two positive attributes anyway.

Blah blah blah blah.

I do give you credit for starting a thread about a non event and turning it into a discussion that ranges from United Fruit Company to British atrocities in Ireland.

[Tolls]

"...British atrocities in Ireland."

Nice one...

[notyoueither]

or lack thereof...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Tolls
"...British atrocities in Ireland."

Nice one...

What, you dont like people taking a small grain of truth and expanding upon it until it is exaggerated beyond recognition? I was just getting into the sprit of the thread.

[Solly]

Originally posted by notyoueither Spink launched a thread with some outrageous claims, I answered in an outrageous fashion.

The only outrageous claim I posted belonged to Bush.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by MOBIUS

I'm sure the UK and the US didn't intentionally kill civilians in Dresden - what are you saying!!?

Just because the UK and US dropped over 3,500 tons of High Explosive and Incendiary bombs on a city with many wooden building doesn't mean they were targeting the 600,000 civilians, wounded and allied POW's - no, they were aiming for the buildings. That those civilians were there was merely an unhappy coincidence...

I don't dispute the fact that US doesn't intentionally kill civilians - what I do dispute is whether they overly care if they happen to kill civilians...

There is far too much anecdotal evidence that the US really doesn't care if civilians happen to die when they're attacking military targets throughout WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Nicaragua, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Iraq, Serbia and Afghanistan just to name a few off the top of my head...

THAT is why the US doesn't want to be held accountable to international War Crimes Courts - they know they kill thousands of civilians needlessly, even if they don't specifically intend to!

In that regard, we are not like the US and don't intend to be - why is also probably a good reason as to why we've never had 4 passenger planes hijacked and rammed into several of our national landmarks...

Nicely said. I take 1/4 of my trolls against England back.