"I know we are the greatest nation in the world"

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Ethelred


So when are you moving out of GB? Where to, Luxembourg?

Murders, not murdered. Britain is not the same country it was even just 50 years ago.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Boddington's
A large minority of Americans don't seem to yet.

I thought the majority of Americans like him now?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by red_jon



So killing some of their citizens in revenge? That's sick! I'd rather live in a country that is known as weak than one which murders innocents.

Then you live in a country merely waiting to be washed away into someone else's grand plan. You do what it takes to protect yourselves. That is the first responsibility of any responsible government. If you wish to meekly await the knife...

Don't blame the Mercans when that happens.

[Solly]

Originally posted by red_jon


I thought the majority of Americans like him now?

Who knows what Americans mean by "majority" though, in the Americans' point of view of course.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by red_jon


So American lives should be worth more than Afghani lives?

From the US point of view certainly. However the US is not deliberatly killing civilians as you seem to be pretending. Neither are our allies in Afganistan the Brits.

You seem to strangly unaware that British troops are in Afganistan helping the US troops. They are doing much better then they did the first British troops were in Afghanistan.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by red_jon


So American lives should be worth more than Afghani lives?

To Americans, yes. When Americans are attacked by thugs sheltered in that country.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by red_jon


Murders, not murdered. Britain is not the same country it was even just 50 years ago.

The loss of India did devastate the economy. Glad to see its finally getting over it.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by Ethelred


From the US point of view certainly. However the US is not deliberatly killing civilians as you seem to be pretending. Neither are our allies in Afganistan the Brits.

You seem to strangly unaware that British troops are in Afganistan helping the US troops. They are doing much better then they did the first British troops were in Afghanistan.

I know the US isn't deliberately killing civilians but they are - and they most certainly don't care if they do.

And I detest Blair's intervention in Afghanistan.

[Solly]

Originally posted by Ethelred


The loss of India did devastate the economy. Glad to see its finally getting over it.

..in Americans' point of view.

[Solly]

The US also sides with Israel, who also kill innocent civilians willingly.

[Gary]

Originally posted by notyoueither


What Irish terrorist groups. Are you on crack?

What bombs have gone off in London in the last 2 or 3 years?

Not wishing to get into this, but feel I ought to point out (since you ask) that they are still repairing the damage to the bomb that went off in my local shopping centre, 12 months ago.

Granted activity on the Irish terrorism front is down considerably, but ...

ok you can carry on your squabble now lads

[red_jon]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Then you live in a country merely waiting to be washed away into someone else's grand plan. You do what it takes to protect yourselves. That is the first responsibility of any responsible government. If you wish to meekly await the knife...

Don't blame the Mercans when that happens.

What about the 'patriot act' and other abuses of civil rights in their homeland? It seems to me that the US public is being washed away inyo someone else's grand plan. And they currently have the opportunity to become the most powerful people in documented history.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by red_jon


So you're saying we should kill people who only acted out of desperation?

I am saying that nations should protect their own when attacked. If you choose not to, your problem.

Don't ***** when you've *****ed the Mercans out of caring, when some European or other threat comes to carry you away from your safe, warm, complacency.

Get a frikin life and realize that the world is a lot bigger than the nice safe sand box you assume is the norm.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Gary


Not wishing to get into this, but feel I ought to point out (since you ask) that they are still repairing the damage to the bomb that went off in my local shopping centre, 12 months ago.

Granted activity on the Irish terrorism front is down considerably, but ...

ok you can carry on your squabble now lads

Of course thay have all moved to columbia to help those famous allies of the USA

[Tolls]

"Yup. Thats what real countries do when their citizens are being murdered by thugs, whether in uniform or not."

Let's see..during the period we had troops actively deployed in Northern Ireland, shooting terrorist suspects, rumbling around in APCs and locking up anyone we fancied, we had the worst series of terrorist attacks in Northern Ireland and on the mainland...since we actually started talking to them (initially in secret) and began a push for peace, and withdrew the troops to barracks (and eventually withdrawing most of them) we have had a rather easier time of it (barring the nutters in the Real IRA).

Looks to me like the war-war was something of a failure at protecting us...and the jaw-jaw approach has had far more success.

In other words you're talking out of your arse...